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More FPS friendly A/C, so i can crank up the scenery.

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Still testing new p3d install with FsGloablUltimate+UTX+GEX. First time i am getting into scenery other default stuff.

 

Doint the testing with p3d default T-64 texan, so i can crank up the scenery quite high, and it loks good.

 

But i know soon as i bring in pmdg, captain sim etc, that scenery gona have to start thining out.

 

Shame great A/c like the pMDG 747 are such FPS drag, PMDG MD11 was great for FPS, but not so much J41. I thought PMDG too finally relaised folks reluctantly purchase a/c that mean very little scenery.

 

After going around with sliders high up, looks so good, i could almost enjoy flying an abacus, as long the scenery is very nice.

 

Gona be checking FPS for addons now, dont really want to turn scnery to zero to fly complex a/c

 

This is why Aerom 787 was quite liked, yes there were faults in the V/C graphics/controls and system simulation was basic.

 

But 1. It looked very good, at defualt a/c level high fps

2. The VNAV/LNAV on Aerosim 787 was smooth like captain-sim has never seen before.

3 You can enjoy some of that comlex scenery addon while flying this plane without fps down to single digits.

 

 

 

So if scenery matters, addon FPS is definatly a factor when making that purchase.

 

That said, some of the very best flights i have had in PMDG 747 where with scenery turned down quite low, then you notice that when cpu has less scenery to generate it improves the realism of a/c flight dynamics, so that, for example, effects of turbulence dont end up feeling like stutter. Only recently with some tweaking with Process laso did i see effect of real turbulence in FSX, previouly it always just looked some bad stutter, cause the cpu not enough resource to make the motion more fluid.

 

The talk that most hardware today is over powered for fsx is being contradicted by the more recent fsx addons such as rex/as2012 that are increasingly taking more ram and cpu.

 

 

i7990 @ 4.5 Ghz Win7 64 GTX690.

The talk that most hardware today is over powered for fsx is being contradicted by the more recent fsx addons such as rex/as2012 that are increasingly taking more ram and cpu.

 

Overpowered? Absolutely not! A Cpu overclocked to at least 8 Ghz would be perfect to have ALWAYS and EVERYWHERE a steady and smooth 30 fps in DX-9, with everything maxed and on, even Light bloom and of course lots of addons and 3 monitors !

 

By the way, i assume you now that 'Word Not Allowed's tuning guide' is also perfect for tuning P3D ?

 

http://#####...hardware-guide/

With kind regards,

 

Bart S.

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Overpowered? Absolutely not! A Cpu overclocked to at least 8 Ghz would be perfect to have ALWAYS and EVERYWHERE a steady and smooth 30 fps in DX-9, with everything maxed and on, even Light bloom and of course lots of addons and 3 monitors !

 

By the way, i assume you now that 'Word Not Allowed's tuning guide' is also perfect for tuning P3D ?

 

http://#####...hardware-guide/

 

Yeh thanks for the tip, i used the Word Not Allowed guide for my previous fsx setup, so used some parts of it for my new p3d setup as well.

 

My system is high end, end quite stable, but still, PMDg 747 brings my system to its knees easily in wrong place at the wrong time, example egll in the morning.

 

After seeing good scenery, goan be avoiding fps hugging a/c, so i can keep the scenery.

 

had a very nice flight just flying the defult fsx sky kite plane think its called aircreation., weaving through mountains, with some serious detail scenery, wow.

 

FSX flight dynamics is actualily much better than most experience cause the system is over burdened with addons. With the Aircreation could feel the pressure increase as i got closer to mountain getting sucked in to the mountains local weather.

Good point about "Word Not Allowed's tuning guide". I have 30(locked)fps almost everywhere with NGX. If you like complex planes - PMDG MD11 has the best performance/high FPS, i never saw a fps drop with MD11. And interesting thing about Leonardo Maddog - it is maybe the most complex addon aircraft ever, but fsx is still smooth at 20fps with Maddog. With NGX is not so smooth around 24-25fps. I have a fps drop in bad weather becouse off 560ti.

If you want less complex aircraft, but maximum performance anywhere, go for quality wings avro series.

No fps problems with GA planes, for me RealAir duke and turbine Duke are the best, and F1 BN-2 islander if you like small aircrafts :)

 

What graphic card you have? It's very important part, 560ti is not enough as many have recommended in past

Zeljko Budovic

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Good point about "Word Not Allowed's tuning guide". I have 30(locked)fps almost everywhere with NGX. If you like complex planes - PMDG MD11 has the best performance/high FPS, i never saw a fps drop with MD11. And interesting thing about Leonardo Maddog - it is maybe the most complex addon aircraft ever, but fsx is still smooth at 20fps with Maddog. With NGX is not so smooth around 24-25fps. I have a fps drop in bad weather becouse off 560ti.

If you want less complex aircraft, but maximum performance anywhere, go for quality wings avro series.

No fps problems with GA planes, for me RealAir duke and turbine Duke are the best, and F1 BN-2 islander if you like small aircrafts :)

 

What graphic card you have? It's very important part, 560ti is not enough as many have recommended in past

 

I am on GTX 690 OC, and trust me i do see good performance even with compmkex a/c

 

But if you have not tried FSX with simple A/c and cranked up scenery, then you mssing another side of the sim, that is just as good as complex a/c flight.

 

Fluidity of flight dynamics is much improved with simple/ a/c due to more cpu bandwidht available, plus you can get much better scenery.

 

I never thought about this myself, just mainly focussed on flying the latest most complex and detailed a/c

 

but testing my install of P3d, together with learning curve of moving from

 

fsx to p3d rc4 to pfe,

rc4 to pfe

fsx gps to garmin1000.

 

I thought i could only help the learning curve by sticking to default simple ped a/c intially. But as it turns out i am seeing some of the benefits of simpleA/C flights as another option to complex A/C flights.

 

Hopefully developers too will realise that folks arent always ready to trade off realism for FPS.

 

For this reason am still a big fan of CLS/JustFlight(just got thier 146 great cabin wing views,nice genrally) etc.

 

PMDG MD11 for sure, but PMDG have not been able to pull off the FPS success they had with MD11. Compare ngx,j41

 

In summary try some flights with simple very fps friendly a/c, enjoy better system response in general + better scenery.

Generally.... anything GA that doesn't have glass gauges will be FPS friendly. For the longest time I avoided airliners with all their extra polys and subsystems and things with fancy panels because of the performance hit they came with.

 

However, a well tuned modern system even pushes these at an acceptable clip.

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Generally.... anything GA that doesn't have glass gauges will be FPS friendly. For the longest time I avoided airliners with all their extra polys and subsystems and things with fancy panels because of the performance hit they came with.

 

However, a well tuned modern system even pushes these at an acceptable clip.

 

Aerosim 787 may change your opinion on Airliners and FPS. Its a FPS friendly, simple, but good graphics, long thread on it in avsim.

Simmer 2050 does this "proces lasso" program really help in FSX ? I 've read that it's supposed to give less priority to programs thay use the cpu to much so that FSX can make max use of the cpu.

Does it give more fps or is FSX smoother with less stutters ?

 

Isn 't it enough to use Affinitimask ?

With kind regards,

 

Bart S.

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Simmer 2050 does this "proces lasso" program really help in FSX ? I 've read that it's supposed to give less priority to programs thay use the cpu to much so that FSX can make max use of the cpu.

Does it give more fps or is FSX smoother with less stutters ?

 

Isn 't it enough to use Affinitimask ?

 

Hi

 

i just came across proces lasso in last 2 days myself.

 

In summary you cn use this to set affinity mask for fsx, and any other program. Better to set fsx affinity in laso so that affinity setting for any program is all done in one place.

 

The program really won my praise, when i purchased flight1 g1000. Only to find g1000 should really be networked from another pc, for an addon its very fps hungary 20 times more than as2012 rex etc, constantly taking up 6% of cpu for addon is big deal, an you feel it in fsx.

 

Thats why i went looking for something to help control the situation, hence came across proces lasso.

 

After 24 hours it did wonders to pretty much remove the stutters caused by g1000. Basically it allows you to set option to starve certain programs of cpu, in my case g1000.

 

To be honest, ill say this is an fsx must have, but youll need to plat around with it an gradually let it do stufff to improve your system.

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