Okay so I need help with the cooling system of a computer I'm ordering/building. I'll post both the link and an image (just in case if the link isn't allowed and is deleted).

>Link is to my NewEgg wishlist (you should be able to see it:

http://secure.newegg...Number=26633427

 

>Picture (imageshack):

http://imageshack.us.../gamingrig.png/

 

Okay... my friend tells me I need a lot of cooling (and I.... THINK he was joking when he told me I should forget the case and have everything cooled next to or insize a freezer) lmao. I told him

"Don't joke with me on that, I'll set it up in an icebox if I really have to" >D But that might do more harm than good.

 

Copper tubing good to help cooling?

>True or False

 

Liquid Cooling?

>True or False

 

More fans than what's on that list?

>True or False

 

And any other feedback/suggestions you can give me would be appreciated.

 

EDIT: Also question/concern about the graphics card and motherboard.... the graphics card says something about it being PCI Express 3.0?

But the mobo only lists a PCI Express 2.0 and 1 .... for all you computer gurus, out there, by looking at the specs in Details tab, can you tell me, if

that mobo can still use that graphics card or if I have to either (get a lower graphics card) or find a diff CPU/mobo?

 

Would really appreciate it thanks.

Is that going to be an FSX dedicated rig?

If the answer is yes, you should go with Intel (I5 2500K or 3570K) and possibly NVidia too

Liquid Cooling?

> True or False

 

Are you overclocking? Even so, whether you are or not, water cooling isn't necessarily right for you. Leaks are a possibility, requires maintenance, requires some skill to install. And modern air coolers are very efficient. I have an i73770k at 4.5GHz, and love my Noctua NH-D14. System cool, quiet and fast.

 

If on the other hand you're talking about all in one water cooling, like the H100i, then obviously easy to install. However, leaks are still a possibility.

 

More fans than what's on that list?

> True or False

 

The Haf is an excellent case, with very good cooling. Therefore, the advice regarding more fans is probably erroneous. Many that build systems whack in far more fans than required, and end up with an unnecessarily noisy system. I have an old Lian Li P50. It has two 140's at the top, a 120 at the front, and a 120 fan at the back. My fans are controlled with Asus Fan Expert, and they NEVER ramp up to full speed, even though I'm overclocked. As long as your components are within the safe temperature margins, excessive cooling is simply that... excessive.

 

As for PCI Express 3, I believe it's backward compatible.

 

Go Intel, not AMD for CPU, as Dario said.

 

I have an i73770k but disable hyper threading, so that could be conceived as a bit pointless. So if your system won't require hyper threading, a non HT Intel CPU would be more appropriate and cheaper.

Ok, I agree with the others on if it is for fsx, Intel and Nvidia.

 

i5 would be absolutly fine, but you may have to change that MB. (not sure, if someone else could clarify, it looks to me like a AMD based one)

 

A dual graphics card in FSX will gain nothing, if not lose performance. FSX is CPU hungry, and requires that to be the most powerful for the best running.

 

I would overclock your CPU for the best performance, but if you do, water cooling or a top end air cooler will be needed. The lower the CPU temp, the longer the CPU will last. IB get rather hot, so especially so if you go that way.

 

For RAM, 16gb will be plenty unless you intend to use it for pro video and photo editing. Performance wise, the extra will give little difference, just make sure the speed of it is high on whatever you choose. THAT will make a difference.

 

I agree with martin-w, the extra fans will just make noise, and will provide only a little extra cooling.

 

Take a look at the Official Hardware guide, (it is pinned at the top of this forum) it may be of help.

 

Hope that helps and BTW your system looks epic

 

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Okay now I'm confused.... as per the guide "So - purchase the fastest ‘unlocked-clock’ processor you can afford" But isn't the AMD 4.0(4.2turbo) with 8 cores better than the i7 extreme with 3.8ghz(4.0turbo) and six cores? 0.o or am I missing something? (which I probably am)..

EDIT:Disregard... I looked up several pages and all benchmarking for gaming.. i7 3970 (or in those cases 3770) seem to be the winner....... wow. Didn't think they'd be.

 

Okay so its decided I'll get an intel (would the i7 extreme below be recommended, or go with lower?) the guide said the i7 was good for higher end (4-5gh) so that's the range I wanted to go with.

 

@Dazz No its not going to be just FSX> I intend to run BF3 and GTA4 (and GTA5 when it comes out). At the very least. I want to maximize performance as much as possible so I don't have to worry about upgrading for awhile. (not talking NASA computer here lol, but something epically awesome).

 

So if the intel route, would this be good?

> http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819116877

 

And you said something with the sandy bridge versions overheat fast? Is there a good way to have it super cool without getting any water cooling sources? I don't want to risk leakage.

I'd change the PSU - go with Seasonic X850. Best psu's out there.

 

I'd also go nvidia for FSX rig. If you play other games stick with what you got.

 

Finally I echo the statement about the CPU. 6 cores is overkill for FSX. Get 2500K or 3570K. Also not many software is multi or hyper threaded.

Okay looking up the X850 and nVidia cards now. 6 cores overkill?! Naaaaahhhh >D But okay I'll look into the 2500 and 3570, as well as dumbing down the ram to 16gb. Will post link of new list here in a few. (appreciate the help so far though guys ^_^ )

 

ADDED: Um. how important is IEEE 1394? I found a cool mobo (at least I think its cool) for just $90 but doesn't have IEEE. Has some other kind of connection (Realtek 8111E?)

> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130674

Aaaand here's the updated list:

> http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=26633427

No one uses firewire these days.... USB3 is faster.

 

6 cores is overkill for FSX... bf3 will be fine. I run it on ultra

 

Btw, just MAKE SURE you get the processor with the "K" at the end - meaning unlocked multiplier.

Okay changed the motherboard. I think this one is better (what's firewire? is that the 8111e?) 0.o And I got the i5 3670K quad core.

You can see the mobo in the new list. I just updated it. (guess I didn't have to relink it.. list updates by itself heh). I also amped the RAM back up to 32GB (4x8GB) just because *shrugs*. It can support it, so I want it >D lol speaking of which saw an intel mobo that can support 96GB... I was like ... wow.................*extra long "..." pause* yeah. Anyways. Hope this new list is good? I think this mobo will support more than that other one and will be of big help.

 

Also wasn't sure if I should get rid of the fan&heatsink I put up there the coolmasters one, so kept it in list. Also my friend mentioned copper tubing for cooling. Still don't know if good or just hype?