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First off I would like to say thankyou so very much to all of you that have posted on this forum and others, you have helped me incalculably over the last couple of years to get my fsx running beyond my expectations. unfortunately I don't have the expertise to be able to add any fresh advice to this knowledge base, but i am here because I have an issue i cannot understand and cannot find posted anywhere.

 

Anyway it had been a while since i'd done any tweaking but now I've just done a fresh windows install and FSX is driving me nuts.

 

The issue is that my aircraft are displaying.loading incorrectly - wheels on top of the fuselage, horizontal stabilizer running through the cockpit - etc etc

 

It was fine before but somewhere along the line (unfortunately I'm to tired to remember exactly when lol) it went beserk.

 

 

I initially had a feeling it was to do with newer nvidia drivers but now I'm thinking it might be to do with FTX AU. Have already reset default flight in fsx cfg, cfg is optimized, fsx was running, but after installing FTXAU (twice) this problem occurred, which seems weird to me because I would assume that FTXAU doesn't edit simobjects files?

 

Here is my specs:

ASRock G41M-S3 - has DPC Latency issues with high autogen resulting in audio crackle, any advice?)

Q6600 G0 @ 2.7GHz - I know, i got real unlucky, it won't go any higher on stock vcore, isn't stable at 3GHz with 1.4vcore :O

 

8GB DDR3 GEIL Enhance 9-9-9-24

ASUS GTX660 OC 2GB

OCZ Vertex 4

WD Raptor

Win 7 Ultimate x64 SP1

 

And a screenshot:

 

 

 

Anyway if any of you have come across this or have any ideas as to what it could be it would be much appreciated. Thanks.

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Actually, I know exactly what your problem is! You have installed Shader 3 Mod and you miss 2 lines in your FSX.cfg!

 

Put this in your FSX.cfg under [GRAPHICS]. Hope that helps you!

[GRAPHICS]

ForceFullScreenVSync=1

ALLOW_SHADER_30=1

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Hey man, thanks for the quick reply, I fell asleep haha.

 

I haven't installed a shader mod, other than cfg tweaks, uiautomationcore.dll, some water tweaks and a few others I haven't modified it a whole lot.

 

I tried what you said anyway and deleted the shader cache so fsx would rebuild it but to no avail.

 

I think this something a bit more messed up.

 

I've repaired both the fsx and accel installs and still nothing.

 

I'm going to try uninstalling ftx and see what happens.

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Did you add in your FSX.cfg what I said, try to find the Shader 3 Mod, it will resolve your problem, and give you a performance boost! Its an exe file!

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Yeah I did but I didn't try the mod, didn't want to possibly create more problems, but I'm all out of ideas so I'll give it a shot after this repair completes.

 

Would you recommened *******' Mod or SweetFX?

 

Thanks again man

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Thanks for the link - gave it a shot, no dice. Still loads up as above and even just in the aircraft preview screen fps appears very low. I'll leave it installed anyway as I'm sure once I get FSX working it will look nicer.

 

I'm using DX9 if that makes a difference.

 

I also have frame rate locked at 30 in nvidia control panel (adaptive limiting).

 

here is my cfg as well if it helps. I know the bufferpool is high, but I tweaked for hours and that's what worked best. UsePools=0 made it very glitchy.

 

 

[bufferPools]

UsePools=1

PoolSize=1073741824

RejectThreshold=2097152

 

[GRAPHICS]

HIGH_MEM_FIX=1

D3D10=0

TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=4096

NUM_LIGHTS=8

AIRCRAFT_SHADOWS=1

AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1

COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1

LANDING_LIGHTS=1

AC_SELF_SHADOW=0

EFFECTS_QUALITY=2

GROUND_SHADOWS=0

TEXTURE_QUALITY=3

IMAGE_QUALITY=0

See_Self=1

Text_Scroll=1

ForceFullScreenVSync=1

ALLOW_SHADER_30=1

SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED_10=1693500672

SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED=1693500672

 

 

[sOUND]

AmbientUIMusicVolume=-6.000000

PrimaryDevice={DEF00000-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}

VoiceDevice={DEF00002-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}

SOUND=1

SOUND_QUALITY=2

SOUND_LOD=0

UISound=0

AmbientUI=0

SOUND_FADER1=0.500000

SOUND_FADER2=0.500000

SOUND_FADER3=0.500000

SOUND_FADER4=0.500000

AmbientUIMusic=FSX01

 

 

[Display]

ChangeTime=4.000000

TransitionTime=4.000000

ActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255

ActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=0,28,140,64

NonActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255

NonActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=24,33,87,64

InfoUpperRightTextColor=255,0,0

InfoUpperRightBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0

InfoLowerLeftTextColor=255,255,255

InfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128

InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255

InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128

InfoBrakesEnable=True

InfoParkingBrakesEnable=True

InfoPauseEnable=True

InfoSlewEnable=True

InfoStallEnable=True

InfoOverspeedEnable=True

BLOOM_EFFECTS=0

SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1

TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=120

UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=0

WideViewAspect=True

 

[JOBSCHEDULER]

AffinityMask=14

 

[Main]

DisablePreload=1

User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter

SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\Airplanes

SimObjectPaths.1=SimObjects\Rotorcraft

SimObjectPaths.2=SimObjects\GroundVehicles

SimObjectPaths.3=SimObjects\Boats

SimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\Animals

SimObjectPaths.5=SimObjects\Misc

SimObjectPaths.6=ORBX\FTX_AU\FTXAI_AIRCRAFT

Location=440,130,1480,908,\\.\DISPLAY6

Maximized=2

HideMenuNormal=0

HideMenuFullscreen=1

ProcSpeed=7722

PerfBucket=7

 

 

[PANELS]

IMAGE_QUALITY=1

DEFAULT_VIEW=1

QUICKTIPS=0

PANEL_OPACITY=100

PANEL_MASKING=1

PANEL_STRETCHING=1

UNITS_OF_MEASURE=0

 

 

[Weather]

WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1

MinGustTime=10

MaxGustTime=500

MinGustRampSpeed=1

MaxGustRampSpeed=200

MinVarTime=5

MaxVarTime=50

MinVarRampSpeed=10

MaxVarRampSpeed=75

TurbulenceScale=1.000000

WeatherServerAddress=fs2k.zone.com

WeatherServerPort=80

WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0

AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1

DynamicWeather=2

DownloadWindsAloft=1

DisableTurbulence=0

CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=5

DETAILED_CLOUDS=1

CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=8

THERMAL_VISUALS=1

[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 .0]

Mode=1920x1080x32

AntiAlias=1

Anisotropic=1

 

 

[AccelerationPack]

ControlsFirstRun=0

HomePageFirstRun=0

 

 

[CONTROLS]

Controls_Default=Standard

Controls_Current=Standard

KBDAIL=64

KBDELEV=64

KBDRUD=64

 

 

[TextInfo.1]

Latitude=1,1

Longitude=1,2

Altitude=1,3

Heading=1,4

AirSpeed=1,5

WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6

 

 

[TextInfo.2]

FrameRate=1,1

LockedFrameRate=1,2

GForce=1,3

FuelPercentage=1,4

 

 

[TextInfo.3]

Latitude=1,1

Longitude=1,2

Altitude=1,3

Heading=1,4

AirSpeed=1,5

WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6

FrameRate=2,1

LockedFrameRate=2,2

GForce=2,3

FuelPercentage=2,4

 

 

[slewTextInfo.1]

Latitude=1,1

Longitude=1,2

Altitude=1,3

Heading=1,4

AirSpeed=1,5

 

 

[slewTextInfo.2]

FrameRate=1,1

LockedFrameRate=1,2

 

 

[slewTextInfo.3]

Latitude=1,1

Longitude=1,2

Altitude=1,3

Heading=1,4

AirSpeed=1,5

FrameRate=2,1

LockedFrameRate=2,2

 

 

[Trusted]

E:\Programs\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSCopilot.dll.qqiwziobhhtnzrotlchnululquikqteqatrtrbok=1

E:\Programs\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\FsPassengers\bin\fspassengersx.dll.cztunoeticzukcrcollwlbkbbocuzqioqlwrwzuk=1

E:\Programs\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.dll.wibzblnlwnaelulrqkkklbozzoktbzereekikqrr=1

E:\Programs\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\PMDG\DLLs\PMDG_HUD_interface.dll.nnbnaczthtnzlqzrwitzkkqklnwkzakzkcaewizt=1

E:\Programs\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\PMDG\DLLs\PMDGOptions.dll.clktzqaruiekwqwulaneuirwcqneetebbrollcuo=1

E:\Programs\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\PMDG\DLLs\PMDGEvents.dll.ctholttucnehthiblnnlrehhhazlhkkcieqaznlo=1

E:\Programs\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\PMDG\DLLs\PMDGSounds.dll.llhlikubkilibcuuwehiukbabinwzznblhrwbqnk=1

E:\Programs\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\XGauge.DLL.bhainetonzekliihtuaculbzolonunbhhirqtlch=2

E:\Programs\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\Cessna.DLL.hnibwuonnkiucczeaulkbazeizqlehciuibaknlw=2

E:\Programs\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\Cessna172.DLL.heawhbnuqwbrlehewelokqnchenoqrzoknwnwrzr=2

E:\Programs\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\Cessna182s.DLL.baqewzrbzkzootqthtcntwkkqabwiwutkwnoatnz=2

E:\Programs\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\CessnaWAlpha.DLL.lzauquiqahqqiawkkknqhelwkzhkkkhwnrtikotr=2

E:\Programs\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\Bendix_King_Radio.DLL.whalabcbinuokwihtkqlwrcoetwqackzqznoahzq=2

E:\Programs\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\Bell_206B.DLL.hcanwnhkweaiauhqzatqeqtbulrqzbtrekcnltlh=2

 

 

[DynamicHeadMovement]

LonAccelOnHeadLon=-0.020000

LonAccelOnHeadPitch=-0.010000

RollAccelOnHeadLat=0.010000

YawAccelOnHeadLat=-0.100000

RollAccelOnHeadRoll=0.100000

MaxHeadAngle=5.000000

MaxHeadOffset=0.300000

HeadMoveTimeConstant=1.000000

[VirtualCopilot]

VirtualCopilotActive=0

 

 

[uSERINTERFACE]

PageID=1

OpenATCOnCreate=0

ShowAllACPaintSchemes=0

SelectAircraftManufacturer=All

SelectAircraftPublisher=All

SelectAircraftType=All

SHOW_MISSION_CAPTIONS=0

PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=1

PROMPT_ON_EXIT=1

SITUATION=FLIGHTS\OTHER\FLTSIM

Map_Orientation=2

DisplayFuelAsWeight=1

 

 

[ATC]

ShowATCText=1

COMM_MSG_NONE_COLOR=FFFFFFFF

COMM_MSG_ATC_USER_COLOR=FFB6FFB6

COMM_MSG_USER_ATC_COLOR=FFFFD21B

COMM_MSG_ATC_AI_COLOR=FF00FF00

COMM_MSG_AI_ATC_COLOR=FFFF7840

AutoOpenAirTrafficWindow=0

UsePilotVoice=1

PilotVoice=0

 

 

[PointOfInterestSystem]

CycleSetting=0

 

 

 

 

[sCENERY]

SmallPartRejectRadius=2

LENSFLARE=0

DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1

IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=3

 

 

[TrafficManager]

AirlineDensity=35

GADensity=20

FreewayDensity=15

ShipsAndFerriesDensity=15

LeisureBoatsDensity=15

IFROnly=0

AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=5

 

 

[TERRAIN]

TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_TREES_PER_CELL=2000

TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS_PER_CELL=1700

LOD_RADIUS=4.500000

MESH_COMPLEXITY=100

MESH_RESOLUTION=22

TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=29

AUTOGEN_DENSITY=3

DETAIL_TEXTURE=1

WATER_EFFECTS=7

 

[AContain]

ShowLabels=0

ShowUserLabel=0

ShowLabelManufacturer=1

ShowLabelModel=1

ShowLabelTailNumber=0

ShowLabelDistance=1

ShowLabelAltitude=1

ShowLabelAirline=0

ShowLabelAirlineAndFlightNumber=0

ShowLabelFlightPlan=0

ShowLabelContainerId=0

ShowLabelAirspeed=0

ShowLabelHeading=0

LabelDelay=1000

LabelColor=FFFF0000

 

 

[iNTERNATIONAL]

ASLAT=3

ASLON=0

MEASURE=0

[REALISM]

PFactor=1.000000

Torque=1.000000

GyroEffect=1.000000

CrashTolerance=1.000000

General=1.000000

UnlimitedFuel=False

AllowEngineDamage=True

TrueAirspeed=False

AutoCoord=False

RealMixture=True

StressDamage=True

GEffect=True

ManualLights=True

GyroDrift=False

CrashWithDyn=True

CrashDetection=True

AutoTrim=False

 

[sIM]

SYSCLOCK=1

 

[sTARTUP]

DEMO=0

SHOW_OPENING_SCREEN=1

STARTUP_DEMO=

LoadWindow=1

 

[FACILITIES]

COUNTRY=

STATE=

CITY=

GTL_BUTTON=1334

 

 

[Misc]

Com_Rate=7

[MAPVIEW_MAP]

SHOW_AIRPORTS=1

SHOW_VORS=1

SHOW_NDBS=1

SHOW_APPROACHES=1

SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=0

SHOW_VICTOR=0

SHOW_JET=0

SHOW_AIRSPACE=1

SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1

SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1

SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1

SHOW_DATATAGS=1

SHOW_TERRAIN=1

show_flight_history=1

[MULTIPLAYER]

condAccoutPassword=0

 

 

thanks again really appreciate the help

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I've had this problem a few times before myself and its always been related to something I mucked up in the .cfg. You could try renaming your fsx.cfg and letting it rebuild, see if that fixes it, then reinsert all your tweaks?

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Ok so I let it rebuild cfg and I got this with the untouched rebuilt fsx.cfg

 

 

 

Don't you just love FSX lol

 

Going to revert back to old one, thanks for the suggestion all the same, seems like this is some seriously random issue

 

Update: Old one restored textures, but the planes are still messed up. Also this is occuring for every single plane.

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wait!!!!!!!!!!

Delete your CFG and put the lines that I posted up, in [graphics]!!!! Se what happens!!!!

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Sorry man was typing this didn't see your post, trying it now

 

I guess by process of elimination I can rule out shaders and cfg?

 

Does this section of aircraft cfg look normal? I've never looked a this section before

 

thanks again

 

 

 

[airplane_geometry]

wing_area = 163.0

wing_span = 33.0

wing_root_chord = 8.3

wing_dihedral = -1.0

wing_incidence = 5.0

wing_twist = 0

oswald_efficiency_factor= 0.60

wing_winglets_flag = 0

wing_sweep = 30.0

wing_pos_apex_lon = 4.0

wing_pos_apex_vert = 3.0

htail_area = 0

htail_span = 0

htail_pos_lon = 0

htail_pos_vert = 0

htail_incidence = 0

htail_sweep = 0

vtail_area = 6

vtail_span = 2

vtail_sweep = 0

vtail_pos_lon = 3

vtail_pos_vert = -1

elevator_area = 0

aileron_area = 0

rudder_area = 0

elevator_up_limit = 37.0

elevator_down_limit = 35.0

aileron_up_limit = 20.0

aileron_down_limit = 20.0

rudder_limit = 0

elevator_trim_limit = 20.0

spoiler_limit = 0

spoilerons_available = 0

aileron_to_spoileron_gain = 0

min_ailerons_for_spoilerons= 0

min_flaps_for_spoilerons = 0

auto_spoiler_available = 0

spoiler_extension_time = 0

positive_g_limit_flaps_up = 4.0 //Design G load tolerance (positive, flaps up)

positive_g_limit_flaps_down= 4.0 //Design G load tolerance (positive, flaps down)

negative_g_limit_flaps_up = -2.0 //Design G load tolerance (negative, flaps up)

negative_g_limit_flaps_down= -2.0 //Design G load tolerance (negative, flaps down)

load_safety_factor = 1.5 //Design G load safety factor

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DUDE YES!!! Thankyou so much, that did the trick.

 

I left the rest of the cfg as default and added the entries in under [GRAPHICS] and it worked.

 

I must have mucked something up, weird though because it didn't seem to happen after i tweaked the cfg.

 

Anyway I'll start adding the tweaks back in one by one and if I can isolate the problematic entry I shall let you know.

 

 

THE CULPRIT -

 

It was the bufferpools entry lol. It worked fine when i reloaded in game but for some reason didn't like the setting upon program restart.

 

I did think that I shouldn't be using it as my GPU far exceeds my CPU, but it *seemed* to be making things better

 

I'm going to add other tweaks one by one and il let you know if any other issues crop up.

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OK!! I'm glad i could help you!! Add one tweak at a time and eliminate the one that create the problem!! Also you should see some improvements with shader 3 mod!!!!

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I guess by process of elimination I can rule out shaders and cfg? Does this section of aircraft cfg look normal? I've never looked a this section before

 

Keep out the aircraft.cfg files, you're not going to find a solution in there. However, what you've posted is perfectly normal. When I had the issue you originally posted up I had to revert to an older version of my fsx.cfg to fix it, I found if I removed it and let FSX rebuild it, it just made it worse because of all the addons and tweaks I had. You may find your only fix is to do a fresh install of FSX so you get a clean .cfg, then make sure you keep a copy of this.

 

EDIT: Never mind you've fixed it without a complete reinstall, and now I know what to do in future if I stuff it up again!

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Yeah I've used that in the past and it's been great but this time I followed the install guide to the letter and then used that and I was getting 6fps lol, (Mind you I'm only getting 10 now lol).

 

I don't think it works for newer graphics cards. I used to have an OC'd GTS450 and it worked great on that.

 

Thanks for the tip though.

 

I'm upgrading to an 3570K soon and getting a more decent board (the one I have is an el-cheapo - hence the DPC latency) so hopefully that will be the end of my FSX dilemmas.

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Actually, I know exactly what your problem is! You have installed Shader 3 Mod and you miss 2 lines in your FSX.cfg!

 

Put this in your FSX.cfg under [GRAPHICS]. Hope that helps you!

[GRAPHICS]

ForceFullScreenVSync=1

ALLOW_SHADER_30=1

Ok so I just ran into the same problem again  :mad: and I worked out why your instructions didn't work for me last time...

 

After editing the above .cfg entries you must rebuild your shader cache.

 

To do so go to %UserProfile%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\FSX\Shaders and delete everything in that folder, then run FSX and it will rebuild the files.

 

Thanks again for the info!

 

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Actually, I know exactly what your problem is! You have installed Shader 3 Mod and you miss 2 lines in your FSX.cfg!

Put this in your FSX.cfg under [GRAPHICS]. Hope that helps you!
[GRAPHICS]
ForceFullScreenVSync=1
ALLOW_SHADER_30=1

 

One thing you should add to this.

 

ALLOW_SHADER_20=1

 

If you don't do this, and you ever want to try DX10 mode, you'll have the same issue in DX10. This way you can switch back and forth if you want. Also if you haven't done so already, don't forget the HIGHMEMFIX=1 tweak, to reduce possible OOM's issues. (Since you rebuilt your fsx.cfg)

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Actually, I know exactly what your problem is! You have installed Shader 3 Mod and you miss 2 lines in your FSX.cfg!

 

Put this in your FSX.cfg under [GRAPHICS]. Hope that helps you!

[GRAPHICS]

ForceFullScreenVSync=1

ALLOW_SHADER_30=1

Ok so I just ran into the same problem again   :mad: and I worked out why your instructions didn't work for me last time...

 

After editing the above .cfg entries you must rebuild your shader cache.

 

To do so go to %UserProfile%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\FSX\Shaders and delete everything in that folder, then run FSX and it will rebuild the files.

 

Thanks again for the info!

 

 

One thing you should add to this.

 

ALLOW_SHADER_20=1

 

If you don't do this, and you ever want to try DX10 mode, you'll have the same issue in DX10. This way you can switch back and forth if you want. Also if you haven't done so already, don't forget the HIGHMEMFIX=1 tweak, to reduce possible OOM's issues. (Since you rebuilt your fsx.cfg)

Thanks! I hadn't come across that one, looks like we've covered all bases now.

 

 

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Unfortunately I tried out DX10 again the other day for the first time in a long while and even with the texture fixes installed and both a clean and tweaked .cfg the performance was almost half of what I get in DX9. That and the incompatibility with Nvidia Inspector AA means I most likely won't be going back to DX10. :(

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