November 20, 200421 yr For anybody considering buying this thing watch out unless you are very good at fixing and programming.I recieved my CH Throttle Quadrant yesterday and it is still not working. It does not come with any software and you have to download a Control Manager from the CH-website... and the Manager is so complex (I'm the type that cant build my own PC from scratch but hate programming) that you need a software-degree to use it.Want I want to say is that the throttle is absolutly perfect and well done but it is not just a thing that you plug-and-play... it comes with no manuals or anything except for a note with their web-page adress and where you can find the Control Manager.I have been surfing the net and so far the only posts I can find is about people that cant get the throttle to work either - except for a few trying to help them by suggesting them to write advanced codes... which is nice of them but for some of us it complicates the situation even more (if you are 'code-blind').So is this just a 'dont-buy-ch-throttle' posts? No, it is not! But be aware what your are buying. I already have thir beautiful yoke and pedals (and those were easy to configure). But paying 200 euros (europe) for a throttle that does not work unless you first use about 48 hours trying to get it to work - in my eyes that is not satisfiying and not what you would expect. At some point I will properly get the throttle to work - but if not I will return it to the dealer (he has to except that - its the law in Scandinavia) but it will be with sadness because it is a well crafted product (just sad that it hasn't been developed for ordinary and 'non-software-technicians' in mind).cheers, walle
November 20, 200421 yr HiI don't have the CH Throttle, but I do have the USB yoke and did have the pedals until I replaced them recently with a much better product. Like you, however, I did have problems programming this equipment. I was about to give up when, by accident, I came across a small utility which works with the CH Manager and does the job for you. It works with the throttle too. You can get it from their site - stickworks.com. It's called CMFS and works like a charm.Bud
November 20, 200421 yr Mine worked fine out of the box-without the ch manager which I don't use at all.Just make sure you delete all the prior fs joystick settings-the old ones will mess it up. Then go thru each axis within fs and set it the way you want it in fs.You can check if it is working ok thru windows control panel-joysticks.Nothing complicated really needed-I stayed away from the ch manager for that reason-that taxed my feeble mind!http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpg Geofa WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE-the best Flight Sim!
November 20, 200421 yr I have the throttle quadrant. I don't use the CH Manager software. I have configured it from within FS and have used FSUIPC to configure the thrust reversers.I currently have the levers configured as Spoiler, 4 throttles and finally the flaps.BTW it toak about 15 min to get it going.RegardsRussell Jourdain (NZL007/ZK-RHJ)
November 21, 200421 yr Hi guys.Thx for your reply - Yes, that way it has worked for me too. My point is that with the quadrant you will free up the three axis for throttle, propeller and mixture on the yoke - and then you can't use them for... let's say fx. for activating the spoiler, gear or flaps?Only problem now is that I can't onbe of my Mixture-levers to work (the quadrant is set up for two-engine propeller). I can assigne it to engine mixture for no 1 in the assignement-control panel inside FS2004 (under joystick assignments). But when I move it in the airplane their is no effect(the same if I try to calibrate it in FSUCIP). Only in FUSIP I hear a ding-tone from XP in the same way as if you try to ask the system for something it can not do...??Any advice?Cheers, Walle (and again thx for you reply).
November 21, 200421 yr Drop by my web site and look on the "Files" page for CMNOTE02.ZIP. It has a WordPad document in it that talks about how to set the TQ up with the Control Manager, with FSUIPC, or with both. Maybe it will help sort things out for you.- BobThe StickWorkshttp://www.stickworks.com
November 21, 200421 yr The CH Control Manager isn't very user-friendly at all. It took me a long time to figure out how it works. However once you get to know it you realize that it's quite quick an easy to change basic things while it's also features very advanced programming features. -
November 21, 200421 yr The Ch Throttle Quadrant works just fine by me! But of course you have to learn how to use the Ch Controlmanager. It' a must! I spent two long night's to teach myself how to use it. Read the help pages in the controlmanager, visit the Ch-Hangar site and pick up some hints, and go to The Stickworks and download Bob Church's two helpful files on how to. (cmfsv102.zip & cmnote02.zip)It'll take you some time reading but after a while you'll get the hand of it. Rune B.
November 21, 200421 yr >Drop by my web site and look on the "Files" page for>CMNOTE02.ZIP.Bob, Thanks! I now have a much better and solid setup of the controls in fs9 :D /Ulf B
November 21, 200421 yr After spending most of the night up I got the quadrant to work in a at least satisfiying way. I will go thru how I did step by step. But first a thx to Bob from StickWorks for his manuals at his homepage allthru I have to say that they also require some knowledge to understand (I would say a basic tutorial like the PDMG-tutorial for the 737-FMC is something somebody with more knowledge abouth the ControlManager than me should do). I wasn't Bob's manuals that did the trick but somebody who wrote they just plugged it in and then just used it direcyly from FS9. Here is how I did.1)I did not installed the control manager 3.5 but did just plug the TH Quadrant in the usb-port - that made the hardware wizard install it.2) Now I installed the control manager 3.5 (CM35) but didnt even bother to open it. I restarted my pc and again I let the hardware wizard install the new drivers it found from the CM35.3)I did this because the calibration methode in CM35 is much better than the standard windows thing.3) From my pc's control panel I opened Game Controllers and did a calibration of boththe quadrant, yok and pedals.4)Still in the Game Controller I made sure that all Detent Values were 240 in the Tab named Throttle Settings were.5)I started FS9, created and started a flight and then I went in to assignments and joysticks (as Bob is writing you should do in one of his manuals. Here I deleted alle assignments regarding the quadrant, yoke and pedals (both in the button and axes assignment part - and as Bob is writing in his manual you will see the quadrant has been assigned to some strange things (fx ailrons)).5. I started all over and assigned everything from scratch (yoke, pedal and quadrant).6. Via a registred FSUICP and the joystick part of that I calibrate and assign the thrust revers, brakes, mixture and propeller etc.7. I'm done, it now works and I'm never ever gonna open that CM35 thing again (its simply to complicated to work with).Take care, walle
November 22, 200421 yr >Want I want to say is that the throttle is absolutly perfect>and well done but it is not just a thing that you>plug-and-play... it comes with no manuals or anything except>for a note with their web-page adress and where you can find>the Control Manager.I just recieved a brand new CH Throttle from Amazon. Literally all I did was plug it in and install the latest version of Control Manager. Then I fired up FS2004 and to my surprise the throttle worked beautifally and the the other buttons on the throttle already seemed to have been pre-programmed with very useful commands such as trim control, views, flaps, etc. Even the mini-joystick worked great. I must say that I do love this throttle but I do agree that the documentation is quite poor.
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