LOU!How the heck are ya' man!? Good to see all of the success you are having with your fabulous 727 offering.

Hey, Chris, good to hear rom you! Give me a call some time, would love to hear about your flying, and I'll fill you in about my new "toy" (one with wings).;-)I'll bet no one knows that Chris and I co-founded DreamFleet together, in fact, he came up with the name!Of course, Chris left for bigger and better things, so I'm stuck in the "kitchen" all by myself!Regards,http://www.dreamfleet2000.com/gfx/images/F...RUM_LOUF_A2.jpg

...and in that kitchen you are the "Iron Chef" as far as I'm concerned. I'll have to do that Lou, so you can tell me about that toy of yours. You lucky dog! :-beerchug

For anyone questioning the change from Devmaster's site where it says Game Studios, and not Microsoft Flight Simulator 2006, Google comes through again with its Cache of the page.So whomever got it pulled and changed, doesn't have that big of a Reach to remove it from Google. ;-)The original author's quote is accurate. :-)Enjoy it before it's gone too. This one is from Google as retrieved on Feb 15, 2005 00:07:12 GMT.Google Devmaster Cache Copyhttp://216.239.63.104/search?q=cache:eQydZ...lient=firefox-aBTW, to get a cache copy from Google, go to Googles website and type the full URL in the search box, and when results are displayed, choose the cache version.Regards,JoeJOIN The AVSIM RTW RACE FLIGHT TEAM****************Grab My FREEWARE Voice recognition Profiles here:[a href=http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fs2004misc&DLID=58334]Cessna 172 Voice Profile[/a][a href=http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fs2004misc&DLID=60740]FSD Avanti Voice Profile[/a].You will need the main FREEWARE Flight Assistant program to use it, get it here:[a href=http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=genutils&DLID=39661]Flight Assistant 2.2[/a]

MS would of picked up on it by now. There was even a vid done by MSN about the FS Team. They showed alot of details. Throughout the whole movie, the team members were talking about a new FS version. At one point, they showed many books on individual aircraft and stated, " these are some of the planes we have researched and could show up in the latest version of fs" Dont know where i got that vid from. May of been from MSN, or here from AVSIM. With that movie, and the things the team said and showed, they might as well just said its going to come soon. It was the same way with FS2004. MS never officialy announced the release untill a month or 2 before the release date. With the games they have discontinued, they did announce that they would no longer be designing the software. MS is funny about that though. They never really set the release date untill its all ready to go, but if something is going to be discontinued, they let you know. They sort of play around with announcing new software. :):-wave

That video was an officially sanctioned product.Quite different from someone inside the team calling the press and saying something like "hey, you guys know we're working on this cool new stuff called FS2006 that's due to be released later this year".The video never mentioned any new FS version specifically. It only mentioned the team are working on flight sim related technology, hardly mindbreaking news...And it seems Microsoft did take action as the text of the article was changed to remove all references to FS2006 or any other non-released products, instead saying only that the author works in product development at Microsoft Games Studios.Given the time of day it looks to have been posted they did that first thing in the morning Seattle time too...I'd guess the author will get a reprimand for this, a black mark which could cost him dearly in his career.

Simple, do a...File --> Save as and then save the html page, we all have it forever.Cheers and thanks for the link.Chris Porter:-outtaPerthWestern Australia

"Quite different from someone inside the team calling the press and saying something like "hey, you guys know we're working on this cool new stuff called FS2006 that's due to be released later this year"."...."I'd guess the author will get a reprimand for this, a black mark which could cost him dearly in his career."Jeroen,Why do always assume these things? Why do you have to target someone with these comments at least once every week, in this case someone not even present in the forums? Have you ever been interviewed? I have. Not everything I've said during an interview--and I have had several--has ended up in the press as I had said it. Quite often, it is embellished. In one instance I was working as Team Lead with IBM on a network rollout. I was described as "Director of Property Rollouts". My 19 other fellow Team Leads were amused by that one. Years ago, when I was a lowly auditor at a hotel, I was interviewd during a disaster and reported as the "hotel manager." My boss there, the real hotel manager, was amused at her demise as reported by the media.Here we have a gaming site reporting that this fellow is with the 2006 project, yet you have no proof he ever said that. The site could have just as easily embellished to make the person look more interesting. I'm sure that's what editors did in my case. Perhaps that's why the references were removed in this one.I think you need to quit micromanaging Microsoft, and let them determine where the black marks should fall. Quit crucifying people based on what's reported in the forums or trade sites. You're among the most intelligent peers in these forums, and I know you can see through these issues if you apply more thought before your posts.-John

Hi Leo - That was a good find! I reread the article you linked this morning and noticed that they had removed mention of FS2006 from the article. I guess word got back to MS that FS2006 was mentioned and should not have been. That article was written six months ago, so hopefully an anouncement concerning FS2006 will be forthcoming.How will all of this talk about shaders improve FS2006 or FS2004? What will it be able to do that the current version won't be able to do?RH

Agree with JohnCi 100% - every other day it seems I see some authoritarian-type post made by you Jeroen bashing on someone for some sort of psuedo legalistic understanding of how business/politics/life in general supposedly works that only you seem to know about. It's really quite tiring. You just called a guy who very likely is truly the FS2006 graphics development lead a liar. The fact that references to MS have been removed now proves you wrong. Microsoft ain't the CIA, I'm sure someone there can say what they do for a living.Now to the actual question at hand:I think this is insanely great news for us that an accomplished shader programmer joined the FS team combined with the report from Lou that the sim probably won't come out till next year. That makes a very good case for the idea that they're rewriting the sim to really take advantage of new hardware and solve the framerate issues. I'm gonna predict right now that if I'm right about this, FS2006 will run probably twice as fast and look at least twice as good as FS2004. Robbie - shaders are what's used in all the new games like Half-Life 2, Doom3, FarCry, WoW, etc to make them look and run so good. All the stuff like realistic water, real 3D lighting, etc is done with pixel and vertex shaders. Basically it's taking full advantage of everything you can do with a DirectX 9 video card like a 6800GT or a Radeon 9800.

Thanks!RH

I found an archived news release about FS2004 on Microsoft's site dated 14FEB03. If we don't have an announcement within the next few weeks, I suspect that it will be a November 2005 release.