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Possibly getting Prepar3D V2.X and new PC Parts.

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I have been interested in Prepar3D Version 2.2 but I wanted to ask if my PC is alright for it because I am planning to get new PC parts. These are my PC Specs and some of my replacements:

Motherboard: ASUS M4A785TD-V-EVO 

Replacement: ASUS Z97 PRO WiFi AC

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 B45 @ 3.1GHz 

Replacement: Intel Core i5 4690k (or i7 4790K depending on the budget)

RAM: 4x2GB DDR3 @ 1333MHz 

Possible Replacement: 2x4GB DDR3 @ 2400MHz (depending on the budget)

HDD: Toshiba 2TB @ 7200 RPM

SSD: None 

New part: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB

PSU: Unsure but possibly around 750W Manufactured by PowerX2 (Possible Replacement depending on budget)

GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB Sapphire OC Edition

Monitor: ASUS VN247H 1920x1080 60Hz HDMI output

PC Case: Unknown (ATX Mid-Tower) 

Possible Replacement: Corsair 200R (depending on the budget)

OS: Windows 7 64bit 

Possible Replacement: Windows 8.1 64bit (depending on compatibility of other software and the return of the Start Button)

 

Will I be fine with what I have now or get the new parts to replace (as soon as the CPU hits the market). And no, I will not get Windows 8.1 until Microsoft bring the Start Button back and other stuff. I think I am fine with my GPU since it is DirectX11 GPU. Some replacements depend on the budget but the Motherboard, the CPU (choice depends on the budget) and the SSD

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Update: New case will be 300R rather than 200R.

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Personally id go for the i7 4790K as it is unlocked and you can OC if you need to. You also haven't mentioned cooling, I suggest the Corsair H100i water cooler, it is fantastic for the value.

 

And on the GPU, I have myself ordered the GTX 770 4GB just, as I am lead to believe P3D needs more VRAM so going up in ram on the Graphics card wont hurt at all. Buy by all means if you can afford it go for the GTX 780.

 

(Just my opinion)

Cheers

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Personally id go for the i7 4790K as it is unlocked and you can OC if you need to. You also haven't mentioned cooling, I suggest the Corsair H100i water cooler, it is fantastic for the value.

 

And on the GPU, I have myself ordered the GTX 770 4GB just, as I am lead to believe P3D needs more VRAM so going up in ram on the Graphics card wont hurt at all. Buy by all means if you can afford it go for the GTX 780.

 

(Just my opinion)

Cheers

Good suggestions. But about the GPU, I don't have any plans on changing as I moved from an ATI Radeon HD 4870 1/2 GB to an AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB over 6 months ago, I don't want to buy a new GPU at this time (but I might look more into it sometime in the near future). I am thinking about the H100i but I am worried about it not fitting with the Corsair 300R and the ASUS Z97 Pro WiFi AC, and it depends on the budget (I read that it can install on the 300R but it depends on the Motherboard and the Ram. Luckily, if I were going to invest on 2 4GB G-Skill DDR3 Ram, they have removable heat-sinks but I am unsure about the Z97 Pro WiFi AC since it is new). But I am starting to think about the 4790K more than the 4690K.

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The i7s are fantastic and the K overclock very well.

 

Let us know what you decide.

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The i7s are fantastic and the K overclock very well.

 

Let us know what you decide.

I will think about it.

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Unfortunately, I don't have enough budget for the H100i but I never overclocked a CPU before (but I am planning to). I decide to look for alternatives and I am looking at Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. Current cost is £22.73 in Amazon. So I am thinking on getting the Hyper 212 EVO for now and in a few months time, I upgrade to the H100i.

Additionally, I don't know how much the Intel Core i7 4790K or the i5 4690K costs (I live in the UK and prices here cost more than the US price). If I were to get a part replacement other than the Motherboard, CPU and SSD, I would replace either the Ram or the Computer Case.

The reason why I am changing Ram is that it is easier to overclock with 2 sticks as opposed to 4 sticks (which I currently have). For Ram, I decided on G-Skill 2x4GB DDR3 2400MHz CL10 Ram which costs £63.88 at Amazon UK.

For the computer case, I was going for the 200R but I changed my mind and go for the 300R instead because if I were to upgrade to a H100i, it won't fit to a 200R without modding the case.

I am hoping to get both but my budget is insufficient so which part should be replaced, the case or the Ram.

G-Skill 2x4GB DDR3 2400MHz 10CL Ram: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007V9RXFI/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-5&pf_rd_r=09X38D1NNRHDA49A2682&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=455346027&pf_rd_i=468294

Corsair 300R: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B006I2H0YS/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_i2?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=09X38D1NNRHDA49A2682&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=455344027&pf_rd_i=468294

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Just dont overclock much until you have a good watercooler as you run the risk of destroying your cpu if it overheats.

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Just dont overclock much until you have a good watercooler as you run the risk of destroying your cpu if it overheats.

I won't be overclocking much anyway as I have little experience on it. But I will try to be careful.

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I finally decided. I will go with the Intel Core i7 4790K. I still don't know the UK Price (referring to amazon.co.uk).

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With the Hyper EVO 212, I've had my 3770K overclocked to 4.7ghz for 2 years with no problem.  To be sure, I got an extra fun for push pull, plus 4 case fans (2 120mm and 2 200mm).  Works great!

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With the Hyper EVO 212, I've had my 3770K overclocked to 4.7ghz for 2 years with no problem.  To be sure, I got an extra fun for push pull, plus 4 case fans (2 120mm and 2 200mm).  Works great!

Good advice about the CM Hyper EVO 212, I wonder how well it would perform with the i7 4790K. About the extra case fans, I will look into that soon.

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I also decided although I am not going to get a new GPU at this time, I decided the next GPU will be an Nvidia GPU rather than another new AMD GPU.

About the motherboard, I found one cheaper than Amazon.co.uk and with free shipping. Amazon.co.uk sells the ASUS Z97 PRO WiFi AC for £149.98 with Free Shipping while the website I found called Micom.co.uk, the same motherboard costs £135.62 with Free Shipping.

Unfortunately, the other parts costs more than Amazon.co.uk but the bright side is I could save nearly £15 buying just the motherboard from Micom rather than Amazon.

ASUS Z97 PRO WiFi AC in Amazon: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00K80MYSI/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d1_i4?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=142J38TN5RQ94YYKR6SC&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=455333147&pf_rd_i=468294

ASUS Z97 PRO WiFi AC in Micom: http://www.micom.co.uk/asus-z97-pro-wi-fi-ac-intel-z97-1150-atx-sli-xfire-sata-express-m-2-wireless-btooth?gclid=CM_1m5q4i78CFaQIwwod9BMAew

 

EDIT 1: Amazon says the Z97 PRO WiFi AC will be in stock on June 25, 2014 while Micom already still have them in stock. There are some rumours that the 4790K will be officially release on June 25, 2014.

 

EDIT 2: Prices could change for Amazon so at one point, Amazon.co.uk could sell the motherboard at a lower price than Micom (hopefully).

 

EDIT 3: I am thinking of getting the parts by early July in the case Amazon doesn't lower the price of the Z97 PRO WiFi AC by 10% (Costs £150, 10%=£15 so £150-£15=£135). By that time, the 4790K CPU should be released. Micom free shipping takes a whole week to arrive while Amazon takes 1-4 days depending on the option.

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I decided to get a new Computer Case (Corsair 300R). I still unsure about the price for the 4790K but I estimate around £239.99 because the US Price of the same CPU is $339.99. As of June 23, 2014, £1.00 is equal to $1.70 so $339.99 is approximately £200. From what I've seen, the Amazon UK Price is about 20% more than the Amazon US price, I guess the price is around £240 (20% of £200 = £40, £200 + £40 = £240). I cannot say for sure but this is typical in Amazon.co.uk. I don't get why the UK Price is always 20% higher than the US Price (unless the 20% VAT Rate has something to do with it).

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I finally ordered the parts since yesterday. These are the parts I ordered and Status as of 03:14 PM at July 12, 2014. All prices listed include the 20% VAT rate.

 

Intel Core i7 4790K: Ordered but didn't arrive yet. Ordered in Aria.co.uk for £241.08 inc Shipping (£231.54 exc Shipping).

ASUS Z97 PRO Wi-Fi AC: Ordered but didn't arrive yet. Ordered in Micom.co.uk for £134.02 FREE Shipping.

Samsung 840 EVO 250GB: Ordered and Arrived. Ordered in Amazon.co.uk for £84.99 FREE Shipping.

Corsair 300R: Ordered and Arrived. Ordered in Amazon.co.uk for £59.98 FREE Shipping.

 

Wish me luck with the installation of the PC and the Prepar3Dv2.

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Good advice about the CM Hyper EVO 212, I wonder how well it would perform with the i7 4790K. About the extra case fans, I will look into that soon.

Just this week have upgraded from a 2500K to a 4790K/Gigabyte Z97X-SLI board and went with the CM Hyper EVO 212. Without overclocking (yet) temps have been far lower than I expected. IE, right now at KBOS in the A2A Cherokee...40fps and temps at 37/43/39/34, no case fans, I just leave the side panels off.  Scenery sliders at Very Dense.

 

I am very pleased with this combo (along with the GTX780) and am surprised how everything runs much smoother/faster.   

 

Thanks,   

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Just this week have upgraded from a 2500K to a 4790K/Gigabyte Z97X-SLI board and went with the CM Hyper EVO 212. Without overclocking (yet) temps have been far lower than I expected. IE, right now at KBOS in the A2A Cherokee...40fps and temps at 37/43/39/34, no case fans, I just leave the side panels off.  Scenery sliders at Very Dense.

 

I am very pleased with this combo (along with the GTX780) and am surprised how everything runs much smoother/faster.   

 

Thanks,   

Thanks for sharing your experience. Sadly because of the budget, I have to drop the idea of ordering the EVO 212. However, I never overclocked before so I will think of a cooler sometime in the near future (same with the RAM and the GPU) (and I expect the change of hardware to happen somewhere around early or mid 2015).

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This is an update to my current status of the PC Parts.

 

These are the parts I ordered and Status as of 11:25 AM at July 13, 2014. All prices listed include the 20% VAT rate.

 

Intel Core i7 4790K: Ordered and Dispatched but didn't arrive yet. Ordered in Aria.co.uk for £241.08 inc Shipping (£231.54 exc Shipping).

ASUS Z97 PRO Wi-Fi AC: Ordered but didn't arrive or dispatched yet, it is still processing. Ordered in Micom.co.uk for £134.02 FREE Shipping.

Samsung 840 EVO 250GB: Ordered and Arrived. Ordered in Amazon.co.uk for £84.99 FREE Shipping (Took 1 day to arrive).

Corsair 300R: Ordered and Arrived. Ordered in Amazon.co.uk for £59.98 FREE Shipping (Took 1 day to arrive).

 

Micom is still processing the order for ASUS Z97 Pro Wi-Fi AC. If you used the FREE Shipping (7 day delivery) postage option at Micom, please share your experience. I'd be more than happy if you answer these questions. How long does the order take for the processing to finish? When does a package (ordered at Micom with Free Shipping) get dispatched?

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Sorry, I cannot do another £25. The parts I ordered almost exceeded my budget (my budget is £525 for the new PC parts, I payed around £520) but I will consider a future upgrade.

 

Well I envy you for staying within your budget hehe

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Well I envy you for staying within your budget hehe

LOL

 

Anyway, this is a new update on the PC parts.

 

These are the parts I ordered and Status as of 05:59 PM at July 14, 2014. All prices listed include the 20% VAT rate.

 

Intel Core i7 4790K: Ordered and Dispatched but didn't arrive yet. Ordered in Aria.co.uk for £241.08 inc Shipping (£231.54 exc Shipping) (Arriving tomorrow).

ASUS Z97 PRO Wi-Fi AC: Ordered and Dispatched but didn't arrive yet, it is still processing. Ordered in Micom.co.uk for £134.02 FREE Shipping.

Samsung 840 EVO 250GB: Ordered and Arrived. Ordered in Amazon.co.uk for £84.99 FREE Shipping (Took 1 day to arrive).

Corsair 300R: Ordered and Arrived. Ordered in Amazon.co.uk for £59.98 FREE Shipping (Took 1 day to arrive).

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New update:

 

These are the parts I ordered and Status as of 02:14 PM at July 15, 2014. All prices listed include the 20% VAT rate.

 

Intel Core i7 4790K: Arrived. Ordered in Aria.co.uk for £241.08 inc Shipping (£231.54 exc Shipping) (Took 4 days to arrive).

ASUS Z97 PRO Wi-Fi AC: Dispatched but didn't arrive yet. Ordered in Micom.co.uk for £134.02 FREE Shipping (Unsure when it will arrive but hopefully this week).

Samsung 840 EVO 250GB: Arrived. Ordered in Amazon.co.uk for £84.99 FREE Shipping (Took 1 day to arrive).

Corsair 300R: Arrived. Ordered in Amazon.co.uk for £59.98 FREE Shipping (Took 1 day to arrive).

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New update on the parts.

 

These are the parts I ordered and Status as of 07:18 PM at July 15, 2014. All prices listed include the 20% VAT rate.

 

Intel Core i7 4790K: Arrived. Ordered in Aria.co.uk for £241.08 inc Shipping (£231.54 exc Shipping) (Took 4 days to arrive).

ASUS Z97 PRO Wi-Fi AC: Arrived. Ordered in Micom.co.uk for £134.02 FREE Shipping (Took 4 days to arrive).

Samsung 840 EVO 250GB: Arrived. Ordered in Amazon.co.uk for £84.99 FREE Shipping (Took 1 day to arrive).

Corsair 300R: Arrived. Ordered in Amazon.co.uk for £59.98 FREE Shipping (Took 1 day to arrive).

 

All of my parts arrived. Here are the pictures of the parts. I am going to upgrade tomorrow (don't know if I am able to sleep as I would be excited about the parts ^_^ ).

 

All Parts: http://s3.postimg.org/o91dve08z/584.jpg

Samsung 840 EVO 250GB: http://s28.postimg.org/5v7dyip6l/585.jpg

Intel Core i7 4790K: http://s29.postimg.org/pm3pb7uvb/586.jpg

ASUS Z97 PRO Wi-Fi AC: http://s24.postimg.org/p5w51a179/587.jpg

Corsair 300R: http://s28.postimg.org/4m66r1a0t/588.jpg

 

EDIT: I tried to upload the image here but it is denied so I am only able to use the links. Also, all images are in 4:3 because my camera is made in around 2006 (yes, it is 8 years old and is still working perfectly (and ironically, the same age as FSX)). The resolution of the images are 1280x960.

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I finished upgrading my PC. There are some difficulties with the build.

 

First, when I tried to fit the I/O Shield in the Corsair 300R but it won't fit even if it is in the correct way. So I tried sliding it in from the outside (which worked and the USB connectors is still pluggable).

Also, another difficulty is that one cable in my PSU is too short (that one connects to the CPU, plus the Z97 PRO Wi-Fi AC utilizes 8 pins while my PSU only has 4 pins). I resorted to swapping my 750W PSU with another PC (which is made by Cooler Master and has 500W but has enough to power my new PC). I noticed all the cables in the Cooler Master are twice as long as the 750W PSU (which made me conclude the 750W PSU should be used for Micro-ATX PCs and the Cooler Master PSU for ATX PCs) and there are 8 pins for the CPU (despite both PCs probably made in the same year (in 2009)).

 

Also, I purchased and downloaded Prepar3Dv2 and so far, I am getting good frame rates (if the cloud and terrain shadows are set off that is). Also, for performance, I lowered the cloud draw distance from 80nm to 70nm. I did some tweaking (only from the Prepar3D Tweaking Guide) and set the Affinity Mask to 14 (I set Hyperthreading OFF after I posted this reply so I am going to test Prepar3Dv2 again tomorrow), set Widescreen ON, set TextureMaxLoad to 6 and Swap_Time_Out to 30.

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