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Just put MegaCity Denver through its paces ...WOW!

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I received the much anticipated MegaCity Denver today. I just finished thoroughly testing it in different seasons, times of day, etc. and am very impressed. I live in Colorado Springs, and am quite familiar with the topography and buildings along the front range cities and found VFR flying at about 4-5000 AGL just about perfect. The night lighting is truly spectacular! The only thing that I don't really like is that the winter textures (which are completely snow covered) are displayed even if one chooses the "fall" setting in the Time/Season tab on the World menu...this gave me November 5th. Outside of the new scenery boundary the colors were appropriately fall, but still winter (totally covered by snow) within the boundaries. I moved the date back one month to October 5th....now the new scenery looks right. Framerates were very good on my P4 3.6 Ghz, 1 GB RAM, NVidia 6800 256MB PCI Express rig. I also have USA Roads installed, and they merge perfectly with MegaCity Denver at the edges. Finally, I use ImagineSim's KDEN Airport Upgrade, and found that the new MegaCity scenery merged with it without any conflicts noted (I was concerned that there would be a problem between these two, but fortunately there was none seen)I'd like to thank the scenery designers for a GOOD JOB.....THANKS!R/Mike Levine

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Thanks for your post.I have ordered MegaCity - Denver and it should be here any day now.Thanks for putting in the bit about it being compatible with US Roads, which I now have. I was wondering about that. I have Justin's mesh scenery installed as well, is that going to cause any problems do you think? (This shows you my total lack of knowlege regarding the entire "Megascenery" thing.)Thanks,DonaldS

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It does look very good on the screenshots. However those kind of sceneries don't interst me since I'm more of a cross-country person. I mean the novelty of flying back and fourth over a city quickly wears off and you'll want to go explore the country. At least I do.Also I would advise anyone outside of North America to NOT order from PC Aviator using standard airmail (supposedly 7-14 days but it does take longer). The PNW Megascenery was sent to me about 32 days ago and still haven't received it. The European pre-orders for that scenery are just starting to trickle into EU now.

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Don,I also have Justin's 38m mesh for the entire US. No problems with the MC scenery.

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Yeah, this sort of scenery doesn't appeal to me either. I would rather like to see say a 20% scenery improvement over the whole US than enjoy 1000% improvement limited to a small box.Michael J.WinXP-Home SP2,AMD64 3500+,Abit AV8,Radeon X800Pro,36GB Raptor,1GB PC3200,Audigy 2

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Hi Michael,for that there is FS Global 2005. I don't usually buy sceneries but I would like to have a real mesh. Any experience with this product? I only buy sets of smaller airports like Scandinavian Airports from Aerosoft because I'm satisfied with the default large airports (they eat some FPS though) and I'm pretty afraid if they will be compatible with the new mesh since it might have a new elevation data for the airfields. Anyone with an experience with this here?Anyway, I would like to ask Mike, what is a frame rate drop with this Denver add-on from his usual frame rates at default airports? Denver is beside SLC my favorite US area to fly to and from the screenshots it looks pretty.Thanks!

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>for that there is FS Global 2005. Yeah, but I don't mean mesh. I mean improvement in textures, landclass, etc. Mesh is a very small part of overall terrain appearance. Michael J.WinXP-Home SP2,AMD64 3500+,Abit AV8,Radeon X800Pro,36GB Raptor,1GB PC3200,Audigy 2

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I just got the New York version of Mega Scenery and it is great!! Just took my RAS Scout for a ride around Manhattan Island after taking off from LGA. The lighting, the bridges, office buildings, power plants, everything is in the right place. Circled around the statue of Liberty once and back though Queens to LGA for a landing on 4. This morning I flew up to the Catskill Area of New York where I lived for a few years, and that was all correct to. Think I have about 150 x 150 miles with over 50 airports for some great light plane flying. Well worth the money.

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>It does look very good on the screenshots. However those kind>of sceneries don't interst me since I'm more of a>cross-country person. I mean the novelty of flying back and>fourth over a city quickly wears off and you'll want to go>explore the country. At least I do.>>Also I would advise anyone outside of North America to NOT>order from PC Aviator using standard airmail (supposedly 7-14>days but it does take longer). The PNW Megascenery was sent to>me about 32 days ago and still haven't received it. The>European pre-orders for that scenery are just starting to>trickle into EU now.Got my order from Pc Aviator in 3 days.

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Yup but you live in North America. If you live in Europe the best place to order is probably simw.com. There is a price premium but you get trackable 2-3 days shipping instead of unreliable untrackable airmail and potential toll fees.

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Previously I had my frame rate locked at 30 (as many forum pundits had advised, even though I have a robust PC and video card, etc) and was getting 29 in most places. The install instructions for MC Denver advised setting frame rates to "unlimited." I allowed the install to automatically do that (and it also made a few other changes to the FS9 settings, the most significant was that it changed my mesh complexity to 20 from 80). I figured if I didn't like the results I could always change back to my former settings. I ended up setting my mesh complexity to 50, as I liked the look better Well, was I surprised! Opening up my FPS to unlimited.....I started seeing FPS in the 60-70's in general and in the 40-50's in the MC Denver area.I then stressed out my system to the maximum: I taxied my Eaglesoft Citation X in the Imaginsim KDEN scenery with a fair amount of clouds, then did a flight low and slow around the Denver metro. The lowest frames I saw on the ground at KDEN were 22 (That scenery does cause a bit of a hit when near the many detailed buildings) and while flying over Denver I was seeing 35-50 during the "day" depending on turning the aircraft, changing views from 2D to VC to spot. Flying that area at "night" raised the FPS into the 60's and 70's. When I left the southern border of the the MC Denver scenery and headed back toward Colorado Springs, the FPS ranged from 55-65 in the "day". Hope this information is helpful to you.R/Mike

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How far north does it cover? How about Cheyenne area? I used to fly there. Thanks, regards, Bob.

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Yes, thank you! I have a similar system and from your post it seems the frame rate hit is not so prominent. After all I could buy the scenery. And that thing with unlimited frame rate limit is interesting and I will try it tonight.Thanks once again.

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MegaScenery Pacific Northwest is fantastic as well, but it also has problems with the winter textures, too much snow, not very impressive.Now fly it in the summer and WOW!

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>and it also made a few other changes to the FS9 settings, the>most significant was that it changed my mesh complexity to 20>from 80). I figured if I didn't like the results I could>always change back to my former settings. Mike,I am a rather dull fellow; I'm afraid, when it comes to things like monkeying around with, um, tweaking, flight sim. Most of it is way over my head.So - How would I go about changing mesh complexity back to where it was before MegaCity Denver? And, how would I go back and "un-optimize" the graphics scenery settings? (See below)It is interesting that you brought up that subject, Mike, because after I read the instructions, I decided not to install Denver, after all.I would rather be out the $22.90 I paid for it, rather than have something installed that messed up the way I have FS9 running. When I read the installation instructions and saw, "During the final stage of installation you will be presented with the option to allow installer to optimize your graphics setting for the best display of MegaCity scenery.", I got scared and backed off from installing it.I figured if I didn't let it "optimize the graphics" it might look like a piece dud scenery and if I did let it "optimize the graphics" i might end up with a dud FS9.Thanks,DonaldS

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Bob,Unfortunately, the northern boundary reaches a bit south of Fort Collins(not even close to Wyoming). The southern boundary is a few miles below Castle Rock.R/Mike

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Don,Not to worry! If you run FS9 in "full screen" mode....hit ALT + ENTER which opens the "windowed" mode. Now hit OPTIONS --> SETTINGS---> DISPLAY ---->Now, copy down the settings your currently are running under the "Scenery"..."Weather"...."Hardware" tabs. Close down the sim.Install MC Denver and this time allow it to make the changes. Run the sim and see how it responds. Should you not like the appearance of something, you can merely go back to the settings and compare the newly changed settings with your previous one. If needed, you can now make any tweaks you desire in the direction of your previous settings......all while the sim continues to run. Pretty easy stuff.Hope this helps.Mike

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How far north does it cover? How about Cheyenne area? I used to fly there. Thanks, regards, Bob.Megascenery and Megacity are two different animals as far coverage area. Megacity Denver is all aerial photography and just covers the Denver metro area, albeit about 3,000 sq miles. Megascenery areas are much larger, composed of a mixture of satellite and aerial photography, for instance, Megascenery Pacific Northwest is 30,000 sq miles, or ten times larger. Hope this helps.

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Hi Mike!Does the Denver mega-scenery have auto gen buildings or just photo images of buildings?I'm curious about this. I also Live in Colorado Springs and am considering purchasing this product.Thanks!Scott HeinzATP/CFII - Instructor Pilot USAFA IFT - 557FTS, Colorado Springs, COSystem Specs:AMD Athlon-64 3000+ Gigabyte K8NS nForce3-250 Chipset 8x AGP Main Board 1GB DDR400 PC3200 Memory 160GB 7200 rpm Hard Drive 16x DVD-ROM Audigy 2ZS Gammer Sound Card5.1 Channel Surround Sound Speakers256MB GeForce-5700 8X AGP Video Cotytech Gaming CaseCH Products Yoke, Rudder Pedals, Throttle QuadrantSaitek Cyborg Gold Joystic for Helo's & Stick equipped aircraftWindows XP Pro SP2

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Hi Scott,I believe that in addition to the photos of various structures, MC Denver does use its own autogen buildings. There are also noticable corrections to FS9's misplaced buildings/stadiums in downtown Denver.I think it is a worthwhile purchase, especially if you do a lot a flying (for real) up and down the front range.R/Mike

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Thanks Mike!I will also give it a try.Scott :-)ATP/CFII - Instructor Pilot - USAFA IFT, 557FTS, Colorado Springs, COSystem Specs: (Built this one myself)AMD Athlon-64 3000+ Gigabyte K8NS nForce3-250 Chipset 8x AGP Main Board 1GB DDR400 PC3200 Memory 160GB 7200 rpm Hard Drive 16x DVD-ROM Audigy 2ZS Gammer Sound Card5.1 Channel Surround Sound Speakers256MB GeForce-5700 8X AGP Video Cotytech Gaming CaseCH Products Yoke, Rudder Pedals, Throttle QuadrantSaitek Cyborg Gold Joystic for Helo's & Stick equipped aircraftWindows XP Pro SP2

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Thank you Mike, for the reply.I installed MC Denver and so far, so good.Regards,DonaldS

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<>Actually, Ft. collins is only a few miles south of the Wyoming border.I used to live in Colo. Spgs. and while I own two other MC titles and like them pretty much, I am going to pass on Denver.Denver doesn't exactly have one of the world's most interesting skylines...when you can see the skyline through the smog that is and Ft. Collins to Castle Rock is less than 100 miles.About the only thing of any interest, to me at least, in that area whould be the mountains and they can me made to look great in vastly greater quantity with some of the excellent texture/mesh/landclass packages available.San Franciso? SOCAL? I get that. Denver, I don't get.Regards,Jim

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Interesting that some posters here and at flightsim seem very expert about this package but have very few posts on either forum.Just interesting.(;Jim

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