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GNS 530 freezing issue

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Good evening all,

 

I am experiencing an issue with the GNS 530 installed into the A2A Cessna 172 Trainer.

 

The unit appears to suffer from random freezing in so far as the display will not update.  Clocking between frequencies updates the radios but the page the unit displays remains fixed and cannot be cleared, even by cycling the unit's power on and off.  This issue is repeatable but is unfortunately random; there are no aparrent circumstances that lead to the failure.  One moment it can be working and the next it can be failed.  The frozen screen carries between both VC and 2D panels.

 

Steps taken so far (Ed I appreciate that this is the Mindstar forum, however I add my panel.cfg entries for the sake of completeness).

 

1. Added the following entries into panel.cfg

 

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window15]
window_pos=0.739583,0.000000
window_size=0.260417,0.333333
visible=0
ident=15531
nomenu=1
zorder=99

gauge00=MPI_GNS!GNS530,0,0,100,100, 2:2:15531

[Window16]
window_pos=0.739583,0.000000
window_size=0.260417,0.194444
visible=0
ident=15431
nomenu=1
zorder=99

gauge00=MPI_GNS!GNS430,0,0,100,100, 1:2:15431


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,512
visible=1
pixel_size=640,640
texture=$gps

gauge00=MPI_GNS!GNS430, 0,0,456,189, 1:1:-1

[Vcockpit02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,512
visible=1
pixel_size=640,640
texture=$gps1

gauge00=MPI_GNS!GNS530, 5,5,506,350, 2:1:-1
//--------------------------------------------------------

 

2. Followed the file copy advice from the following post:

http://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=44777

 

A further issue I have noted is that the colour representation in the VC is not as good as the 2D popup.  On the startup/self test page there is a globe; on the 2D panel this is yellow whereas on the 3D panel it is white.  The black outline of the plane during the self test is present in 2D but not in VC.

 

I've checked my Event Log but since the simulator itself (Prepar3d 2.5) is running without issue there is nothing in the logs relating to the freeze.  The unit is using stock navigation data; I have not purchased an update subscription as yet until I have tested the unit.  ORBX Southampton (EGHI), Orbx FTX Global and Activesky Next build 5526 are in use.

 

Please can you advise as to how to proceed?  If there is any further information I can provide please let me know.

 

Many thanks indeed,

 

Andrew Curry

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Ok... I'm going to have to go over your panel.cfg entries a bit... not sure you've got them correct.

 

As for color issues... to be really blunt... it's the exact same code/image/gauge/etc. Exact same. If it is showing different colors, you have something messing with the appearance that has absolutely nothing to do with our code.

 

I wrote that code, I know this.

 

Are you running a default GPS entry anywhere? Like a 295 or something?

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Hi Ed,

 

I am going to go over my panel.cfg also; there's a good chance that I missed something the first time through.  However if you can offer any advice also I'd be very appreciative.  I will add the full panel.cfg below so nothing is missed.

 

Regarding the colour issues, that is completely understood.  I will look to see what else could be interfering with it.  I am running REX, Activesky and ORBX.  Beyond that there is nothing else running in the sim; it could be a graphics driver issue maybe (nVidia).  Yet another intractable PC issue...I work in IT support so I know what these gremlins can be like :)  I could never be a coder though, I'm still trying to get my head around Spectrum Basic :D

 

As far as the default GPS entry there may well be.  Full panel.cfg below:

 

[Window Titles]
Window00=Main panel
Window01=Clipboard
Window02=Mini controls
Window03=Payload and fuel manager
Window04=Map
Window05=Quick radios
Window06=Maintenance hangar
Window07=Pre-flight inspection
Window08=AFK
Window09=none2    
Window10=dbg
Window11=none3
Window12=none4
Window13=gps295
Window14=gns400
Window15=GNS 530 WAAS
Window16=GNS 430 WAAS

[VIEWS]
VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=10,20,RADIO_STACK_PANEL,FUEL_PANEL,40,50,51,52,53,54,100,101,102,103,104,105

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window00]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,768
position=1
visible=0
ident=10

//gauge00=tester!tester, 420, 50, 400, 1000         //Comment for release

[Window01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=322,615
pixel_size=322,615
window_pos= 0.0, 0.2      
position=0
visible=0
ident=20
sizable=0

gauge00=A2A_C172!clipboard,  1,0,322,615

[Window02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=321,311
pixel_size=321,311
window_pos= 0.51, 0.2      
position=0
visible=0
ident=RADIO_STACK_PANEL
sizable=0
gauge00=A2A_C172!controls,   1,0,321,311

[Window03]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=649,689
pixel_size=649,689
window_pos= 0.51, 0.2      
position=1
visible=1
ident=FUEL_PANEL
sizable=0

gauge00=A2A_C172!manager,  1,0,649,689


[Window04]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,768
pixel_size=1024,768
window_pos= 0.000, 0.2
position=0
visible=1
ident=40
sizable=0

gauge00=A2A_C172!mapscreen,  255,1,770,766
gauge01=A2A_C172!map_settings,  1,50,246,232

[Window05]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=187,392
pixel_size=187,392
position=6
window_pos= 0.025, 0.9
visible=1
ident=50
sizable=0

gauge00=A2A_C172!radios,  1,0,


[Window06]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,768
pixel_size=1024,768
window_pos= 0.000, 0.2
position=0
visible=0
ident=51
sizable=0

gauge00=A2A_C172!maint_hangar,  1,0,1024,768


[Window07]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,768
pixel_size=1024,768
window_pos= 0.000, 0.2
position=0
visible=0
ident=53
sizable=0
nomenu=1
type=special

gauge00=A2A_C172!walkaround,  0,0,1024,768


[Window08]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=321,321
pixel_size=321,321
position=5
visible=1
ident=54
sizable=0

gauge00=A2A_C172!afk,  1,1,321,321


[Window09]
Background_color=0,0,0
ident=100
nomenu=1
type=special

gauge00=A2A_C172!keys,  1,1,1,1
//gauge01=A2A_C172!cockpitBuilder, 2,2,2,2 //Disable VC - for cockpit builders.
//gauge02=A2A_C172!disableExtShakes, 3,3,3,3 //Disable the shakes in external view.

[Window10]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=330,450
pixel_size=330,450
position=5
visible=0
nomenu=1
ident=101
sizable=0

//gauge00=dbg!panel,  144,0             //Comment for release

[Window11]
Background_color=1,1,1
ident=102
window_size=1.000,1.000
nomenu=1
zorder=100

gauge00=A2A_C172!blackout,  0,0

[Window12]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=650,624
pixel_size=650,624
position=3
visible=0
ident=103
nomenu=1
zorder=99

gauge00=A2A_C172!engine_details,  1,1,650,624

[Window13]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=420,255
position=6
visible=0
ident=104
sizable=0
nomenu=1
type=special

gauge00=gps!gpsmap_295,        0,0,420,255        
gauge01=gps!gps_295,        45,74,300,215        

[Window14]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=420,217
position=8
visible=0
ident=105
sizable=0
nomenu=1
type=special

gauge00=gps!gns_400,        0,0,420,217        
gauge01=gps!gps_500,        103,27,310,225            


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window15]
window_pos=0.739583,0.000000
window_size=0.260417,0.333333
visible=0
ident=15531
nomenu=1
zorder=99

gauge00=MPI_GNS!GNS530,0,0,100,100, 2:2:15531

[Window16]
window_pos=0.739583,0.000000
window_size=0.260417,0.194444
visible=0
ident=15431
nomenu=1
zorder=99

gauge00=MPI_GNS!GNS430,0,0,100,100, 1:2:15431


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,512
visible=1
pixel_size=640,640
texture=$gps

gauge00=MPI_GNS!GNS430, 0,0,456,189, 1:1:-1

[Vcockpit02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,512
visible=1
pixel_size=640,640
texture=$gps1

gauge00=MPI_GNS!GNS530, 5,5,506,350, 2:1:-1
//--------------------------------------------------------



//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit00]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,1024
visible=1
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$reticle

gauge01=A2A_C172!code_c172r, 1,1,1,1
gauge02=A2A_C172!status1,2,2,2,2
gauge03=A2A_C172!damage,    3,3,3,3
gauge04=accusim_xml!code_s,    4,4,4,4
gauge05=A2A_Accusim!lua,    5,5,5,5
gauge06=A2A_Accusim!AVS,    6,6,6,6
gauge07=A2A_Accusim!events,    7,7,7,7
gauge08=A2A_Accusim!random,    8,8,8,8
gauge09=A2A_Accusim!storage,    9,9,9,9
gauge10=A2A_C172!code_c172r_m, 1,1,1,1
gauge11=gps!gps_500,    0,0,1065,675
gauge12=C172!avionics, 0, 576, 1024,447
gauge13=A2A_C172!annunciator, 1, 454, 854,120
gauge14=A2A_C172!number, 794, 0, 228,77

[Vcockpit01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,512
visible=1
pixel_size=640,640
texture=$gps

gauge00=rxpGNS!GNS430, 0,0,511,217

[Vcockpit02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,512
visible=1
pixel_size=640,640
texture=$gps1

gauge00=rxpGNS!GNS530, 0,0,511,372

[Vcockpit03]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,1024
visible=1
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$c172_c3_l

gauge00=C172_Illumination!c3_l, 0, 0, 1024, 1024

[Vcockpit04]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,1024
visible=1
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$c172_c4_l

gauge00=C172_Illumination!c4_l, 0, 0, 1024, 1024

[Vcockpit05]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,1024
visible=1
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$vc_gxml_lm

gauge00=C172_Illumination!gxml_lm, 0, 0, 1024, 1024

[Vcockpit06]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=128,128
visible=1
pixel_size=128,128
texture=$lm_clock

gauge00=C172_Illumination!lm_clock, 0, 0, 128, 128

[Vcockpit07]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,512
visible=1
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$c172_c7_l

gauge00=C172_Illumination!c7_l, 0, 0, 512, 512

[Default View]
X=0
Y=0
SIZE_X=8191
SIZE_Y=6143
 

Thanks Ed, I really appreciate your time.  When we get to the bottom of this I will post the resulting panel.cfg on the A2A website so that others can have the exact same setup.

 

Thanks again,

 

Andy

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Both Window 13 and Window 14 reference what appears to be default GPS-based gauges. They really shouldn't be there.

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Wouldn't the rxpGNS!GNS530 and rxpGNS!GNS430 being loaded cause problems as well Ed?

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Yes... yes they would... I didn't see those entries and didn't even look at the VC windows.

 

There is absolutely no legitimate reason to have 3 different vendor GPS units in your panel.cfg. Pick one.

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Hi Ed and Fr. Bill,

 

Not a problem, I take all of that on board.

 

I have gone back to my original panel.cfg and removed the other GPS entries then added the code as per the guide on your website.  I'll give that a go and keep working until I've exhausted every avenue.  I certainly don't want to take up a lot of time due to my own mistakes, however I would like to offer my thanks for your advice thus far, it is very much appreciated indeed.

 

Andy

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Nah... I'm here to help. I have modified the panel.cfg you posted... try this:

 

[Window Titles]
 Window00=Main panel
 Window01=Clipboard
 Window02=Mini controls
 Window03=Payload and fuel manager
 Window04=Map
 Window05=Quick radios
 Window06=Maintenance hangar
 Window07=Pre-flight inspection
 Window08=AFK
 Window09=none2    
 Window10=dbg
 Window11=none3
 Window12=none4
 Window13=GNS 530 WAAS
 Window14=GNS 430 WAAS

 [VIEWS]
 VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=10,20,RADIO_STACK_PANEL,FUEL_PANEL,40,50,51,52,53,54,100,101,102,103,104,105

 //--------------------------------------------------------
 [Window00]
 Background_color=0,0,0
 size_mm=1024,768
 position=1
 visible=0
 ident=10

 //gauge00=tester!tester, 420, 50, 400, 1000         //Comment for release

 [Window01]
 Background_color=0,0,0
 size_mm=322,615
 pixel_size=322,615
 window_pos= 0.0, 0.2      
 position=0
 visible=0
 ident=20
 sizable=0

 gauge00=A2A_C172!clipboard,  1,0,322,615

 [Window02]
 Background_color=0,0,0
 size_mm=321,311
 pixel_size=321,311
 window_pos= 0.51, 0.2      
 position=0
 visible=0
 ident=RADIO_STACK_PANEL
 sizable=0
 gauge00=A2A_C172!controls,   1,0,321,311

 [Window03]
 Background_color=0,0,0
 size_mm=649,689
 pixel_size=649,689
 window_pos= 0.51, 0.2      
 position=1
 visible=1
 ident=FUEL_PANEL
 sizable=0

 gauge00=A2A_C172!manager,  1,0,649,689


 [Window04]
 Background_color=0,0,0
 size_mm=1024,768
 pixel_size=1024,768
 window_pos= 0.000, 0.2
 position=0
 visible=1
 ident=40
 sizable=0

 gauge00=A2A_C172!mapscreen,  255,1,770,766
 gauge01=A2A_C172!map_settings,  1,50,246,232

 [Window05]
 Background_color=0,0,0
 size_mm=187,392
 pixel_size=187,392
 position=6
 window_pos= 0.025, 0.9
 visible=1
 ident=50
 sizable=0

 gauge00=A2A_C172!radios,  1,0,


 [Window06]
 Background_color=0,0,0
 size_mm=1024,768
 pixel_size=1024,768
 window_pos= 0.000, 0.2
 position=0
 visible=0
 ident=51
 sizable=0

 gauge00=A2A_C172!maint_hangar,  1,0,1024,768


 [Window07]
 Background_color=0,0,0
 size_mm=1024,768
 pixel_size=1024,768
 window_pos= 0.000, 0.2
 position=0
 visible=0
 ident=53
 sizable=0
 nomenu=1
 type=special

 gauge00=A2A_C172!walkaround,  0,0,1024,768


 [Window08]
 Background_color=0,0,0
 size_mm=321,321
 pixel_size=321,321
 position=5
 visible=1
 ident=54
 sizable=0

 gauge00=A2A_C172!afk,  1,1,321,321


 [Window09]
 Background_color=0,0,0
 ident=100
 nomenu=1
 type=special

 gauge00=A2A_C172!keys,  1,1,1,1
 //gauge01=A2A_C172!cockpitBuilder, 2,2,2,2 //Disable VC - for cockpit builders.
 //gauge02=A2A_C172!disableExtShakes, 3,3,3,3 //Disable the shakes in external view.

 [Window10]
 Background_color=0,0,0
 size_mm=330,450
 pixel_size=330,450
 position=5
 visible=0
 nomenu=1
 ident=101
 sizable=0

 //gauge00=dbg!panel,  144,0             //Comment for release

 [Window11]
 Background_color=1,1,1
 ident=102
 window_size=1.000,1.000
 nomenu=1
 zorder=100

 gauge00=A2A_C172!blackout,  0,0

 [Window12]
 Background_color=0,0,0
 size_mm=650,624
 pixel_size=650,624
 position=3
 visible=0
 ident=103
 nomenu=1
 zorder=99

 gauge00=A2A_C172!engine_details,  1,1,650,624

 //--------------------------------------------------------
 [Window13]
 window_pos=0.739583,0.000000
 window_size=0.260417,0.333333
 visible=0
 ident=15531
 nomenu=1
 zorder=99

 gauge00=MPI_GNS!GNS530,0,0,100,100, 2:2:15531

 [Window14]
 window_pos=0.739583,0.000000
 window_size=0.260417,0.194444
 visible=0
 ident=15431
 nomenu=1
 zorder=99

 gauge00=MPI_GNS!GNS430,0,0,100,100, 1:2:15431


 //--------------------------------------------------------
 [Vcockpit00]
 Background_color=0,0,0
 size_mm=1024,1024
 visible=1
 pixel_size=1024,1024
 texture=$reticle

 gauge01=A2A_C172!code_c172r, 1,1,1,1
 gauge02=A2A_C172!status1,2,2,2,2
 gauge03=A2A_C172!damage,    3,3,3,3
 gauge04=accusim_xml!code_s,    4,4,4,4
 gauge05=A2A_Accusim!lua,    5,5,5,5
 gauge06=A2A_Accusim!AVS,    6,6,6,6
 gauge07=A2A_Accusim!events,    7,7,7,7
 gauge08=A2A_Accusim!random,    8,8,8,8
 gauge09=A2A_Accusim!storage,    9,9,9,9
 gauge10=A2A_C172!code_c172r_m, 1,1,1,1
 gauge11=C172!avionics, 0, 576, 1024,447
 gauge12=A2A_C172!annunciator, 1, 454, 854,120
 gauge13=A2A_C172!number, 794, 0, 228,77

 //--------------------------------------------------------
 [Vcockpit01]
 Background_color=0,0,0
 size_mm=512,512
 visible=1
 pixel_size=640,640
 texture=$gps

 gauge00=MPI_GNS!GNS430, 0,0,456,189, 1:1:-1

 [Vcockpit02]
 Background_color=0,0,0
 size_mm=512,512
 visible=1
 pixel_size=640,640
 texture=$gps1

 gauge00=MPI_GNS!GNS530, 5,5,506,350, 2:1:-1
 //--------------------------------------------------------

 [Vcockpit03]
 Background_color=0,0,0
 size_mm=1024,1024
 visible=1
 pixel_size=1024,1024
 texture=$c172_c3_l

 gauge00=C172_Illumination!c3_l, 0, 0, 1024, 1024

 [Vcockpit04]
 Background_color=0,0,0
 size_mm=1024,1024
 visible=1
 pixel_size=1024,1024
 texture=$c172_c4_l

 gauge00=C172_Illumination!c4_l, 0, 0, 1024, 1024

 [Vcockpit05]
 Background_color=0,0,0
 size_mm=1024,1024
 visible=1
 pixel_size=1024,1024
 texture=$vc_gxml_lm

 gauge00=C172_Illumination!gxml_lm, 0, 0, 1024, 1024

 [Vcockpit06]
 Background_color=0,0,0
 size_mm=128,128
 visible=1
 pixel_size=128,128
 texture=$lm_clock

 gauge00=C172_Illumination!lm_clock, 0, 0, 128, 128

 [Vcockpit07]
 Background_color=0,0,0
 size_mm=512,512
 visible=1
 pixel_size=512,512
 texture=$c172_c7_l

 gauge00=C172_Illumination!c7_l, 0, 0, 512, 512

 [Default View]
 X=0
 Y=0
 SIZE_X=8191
 SIZE_Y=6143

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Hi Ed, that certainly seems to have done the trick.

Now I just need to figure out what's messing with the colours!

 

Andy

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