No EOSID with new LIDO charts

[Driver170 42]

For those who used Navigraph charts you will know they came with a EOSID. But with the new LIDO charts this is non existant now! So what do you guys now do for an engine failure procedure? Climb straight ahead to MSA, Retract at 1000 AGL?

 

I'm curious in what other NGX pilots are now doing?

[badderjet 181]

For those who used Navigraph charts you will know they came with a EOSID. But with the new LIDO charts this is non existant now! So what do you guys now do for an engine failure procedure? Climb straight ahead to MSA, Retract at 1000 AGL?

 

I'm curious in what other NGX pilots are now doing?

 

LIDO has EOSIDs wherever applicable.

 

[Driver170 42]

Are they available to us?

[badderjet 181]

To me yes, to you probably no. Except for if you work for an airline or, for that matter, LIDO. Furthermore operators may have their own specific EO procedures based on each airport, runway etc. so I'm afraid such data is not available publicly.

 

[Driver170 42]

Yeh thats obvious! Cheers for your help.

[badderjet 181]

Your original proposal, by the way, might be a fairly good guess for a vast majority of airport runways, nevertheless. At least if you don't have complex terrain etc. in the surroundings.

 

[Driver170 42]

I think i'll stick with climb to MSA and hold over the airport using a navaid. My SOPs that i follow do mention retract at MFRA and climb to MSA. It mentions that in the emergency briefing

[Bryn 72]

TOPCAT also has an EO procedure for each runway, I think?

[Driver170 42]

Where did they get those procedures from?

[Mickeyj 35]

Where did they get those procedures from?

 

Hi Vernon,

 

i have the Navigraph charts and i have the actual LIDOs on my Company EFB. We get the EOSID from our TOPAS as it will be listet for the takeoff rwy when the take off data has been calculated. Usually if tertain is not a factor we climb straight ahead 5000' or MSA or into controlled airspace 25 NM. 

The acceleration altitude (the altitude where you clean up the aircraft -flaps up- and set climb thrust and/or level change)is standard 1500AGL. Caution there are airports that have special EOSIDs like LSZH. Check the AOI for more info if any. If you are not critical in performance and terrain permits you also may follow the SID. Last option would be to follow the missed approach procedure of your take off rwy.

[badderjet 181]

My SOPs that i follow do mention retract at MFRA and climb to MSA. It mentions that in the emergency briefing

 

Yeah, but I'm not sure if there is a very easy way to determine MFRA for each takeoff.

 

Check the AOI for more info if any.

 

He can't, he doesn't have LIDO. And full names please.

 

Where did they get those procedures from?

 

Where did Navigraph get them from, if they apparently supply them?

 

[Mickeyj 35]

Yeah, but I'm not sure if there is a very easy way to determine MFRA for each takeoff.

 

 

He can't, he doesn't have LIDO. And full names please.

 

 

Where did Navigraph get them from, if they apparently supply them?

 

 

Uuups i thought he has...

 

Michael

[Driver170 42]

Yeh i have LIDO charts now