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No xp-11 until 2017 - Stephen Dutton

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ATC will get some bug fixes but nothiung major since IVAO, VATSIM and PilotEdge are better solutions.

With respect you're comparing apples and oranges. I agree that the built in ATC is a train wreck, but going online is not necessarily a better solution for those seeking an offline ATC tool, and there are valid reasons why many people have no desire to fly online.

With respect you're comparing apples and oranges. I agree that the built in ATC is a train wreck, but going online is not necessarily a better solution for those seeking an offline ATC tool, and there are valid reasons why many people have no desire to fly online.

Strongly agree. VATSIM is excessively bureaucratic and has patchy ATC service. Only certain sectors in certain times of the day are active and lit up. IVAO has equally patchy ATC service, while PilotEdge is a paid-for service (after an initial free trial) and is severely limited in area coverage (currently SoCal and a little of KLAS).

 

I'd like to be vectored from push-back to shut-down for once without hearing "<callsign>, radar service terminated, frequency change approved, monitor UNICOM 122.8." The only time I've ever had such a flight was in CTP Westbound earlier this year.

 I agree that the built in ATC is a train wreck, but going online is not necessarily a better solution for those seeking an offline

I can only tell you what Philipp said in the twitch stream (It was deleted in the mean time). The point is:: If Ben was asked for ATC he always only answered "Yes, _BUG FIXES_". And People always expect more or less a rewrite of the current ATC.

If you expect a rewrite you obviozusly shouldn't expect it in a X-Plane 10 time frame.

 

I quote from an interview Ben SUpnik gave to flightsim.com ( http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/content.php?14518-Interview-Ben-Supnik-Future-Of-X-Plane )

 

"

How do you see the ATC changing in the future?

One of our goals with the new ATC system for X-Plane 10 was to create a strong foundation for future feature development. (In this way the new ATC system is a little bit like the new scenery system was in X-Plane 8 - the beginning of a journey.) Both Chris Serio and myself (the co-designers of the ATC engine) are long-time VATSIM controllers with considerable knowledge about real-world ATC operations; our goal was to make a system that could be extended to model all real-world ATC operations.

Our first priority is bug fixes and usability. The goal of the initial ATC system was to be able to complete a realistic IFR flight with ATC; unfortunately a small number of nasty bugs cause a lot of problems with this."

 

He always only confirmed the bug fixes and Philipp simply went into more details. They no longer view the internal ATC as a major feature for X-Plane 10, since there are more usefull online ATCs and third party tools available. But somehow people always try to change the answers to "Yes, there will be a major upgrade of the ATC."

Karsten Schubert

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