March 6, 201610 yr Commercial Member Paste the contents of your 172's panel.cfg for me please. As for the A2A 182, I don't know if it's "Mindstar-aware"... Ed Wilson Mindstar AviationMy Playland - I69
March 7, 201610 yr I think you want my 172 panel.cfg content thanks for having a look Here it is // Panel Configuration file // Cessna 172sp // Copyright (c) 2001-2003 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. [Window Titles] Window00=Main Panel Window01=Radio Stack Window02=GPS_PANEL Window03=IFR Panel Window04=Landing View Window05=Mini Panel Window06=Reality XP GNS 430 WAAS - RXP_CONFIG_TOOL - DO NOT CHANGE Window08=Reality XP GNS GMAGTX - RXP_CONFIG_TOOL - DO NOT CHANGE Window09=Reality XP DropStack [Window00] file_1024=cessna_172_background.bmp file_1024_night=cessna_172_background_night.bmp size_mm=640 position=7 visible=1 no_luminous=1 ident=MAIN_PANEL zorder=0 windowsize_ratio=1.000 window_pos=0.0,0.0 window_size=1.000,1.000 view_window_rect=0,0,8192,4000 gauge00=Cessna!Altimeter, 346,167, 79, 79 gauge01=Cessna!Annunciator, 517,159, 62, 15 gauge02=Cessna!Avionics Switch, 288,426, 37, 47 gauge03=Cessna!Flaps, 467,415, 48, 64 gauge04=Cessna!Fuel_Selector, 556,415, 82, 62 gauge05=Cessna!Heading_Indicator, 264,247, 81, 81 gauge06=Cessna!Master_Alt_Bat, 121,425, 40, 45 gauge07=Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator, 582,162, 12, 11 gauge08=Cessna!Nav GPS Switch, 594,162, 12, 11 gauge09=Cessna!OMI_Lights, 609,158 gauge10=Cessna!Pitch_Trim, 528,416, 21, 36 gauge11=Cessna!Starter, 71,422, 47, 52 gauge12=Cessna!Turn_Indicator, 185,247, 78, 78 gauge13=Cessna!Vertical_Speed, 346,247, 79, 79 gauge14=Cessna!Vacuum_Ampermeter, 122,334, 58, 58 gauge15=Cessna172!Airspeed, 185,167, 78, 78 gauge16=Cessna172!Alt_Static_Air, 339,453, 37, 27 gauge17=Cessna172!Clock, 122,193, 58, 58 gauge18=Cessna172!EGT_Fuel_Flow, 122,271, 58, 58 gauge19=Cessna172!Fuel, 61,270, 58, 58 gauge20=Cessna172!Fuel_Shutoff, 517,453, 36, 28 gauge21=Cessna172!Panel_Lights_Switch, 342,418, 30, 34 gauge22=Cessna172!Tachometer, 347,329, 78, 78 gauge23=Cessna172!Thrust_Controls, 375,425, 81, 55 gauge24=Cessna182s!Oil_Press_Temp, 62,334, 58, 58 gauge25=Cessna182s!Switches, 163,440,121, 41 gauge26=CessnaWAlpha!ADF_Alpha, 431,329, 79, 79 gauge27=CessnaWAlpha!Attitude_Alpha, 266,167, 78, 78 gauge28=CessnaWAlpha!VOR2_Alpha, 431,247, 79, 79 gauge29=CessnaWAlpha!VOR1_Alpha, 431,167, 79, 79 gauge30=CessnaWAlpha!Whiskey_Compass_Alpha, 499, 98, 35, 23 gauge41=SimIcons!Kneeboard Icon, 66,255 gauge42=SimIcons!ATC Icon, 78,255 gauge43=SimIcons!Map Icon, 90,255 gauge44=SimIcons!GPS Icon, 102,255 gauge45=SimIcons1024!IFR Icon, 114,255, 12, 12 gauge46=SimIcons1024!Landing Icon, 126,255, 12, 12 gauge47=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 519,177,120, 24 gauge48=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 519,200,120, 41 gauge49=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 2, 519,240,120, 42 gauge50=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 519,281,120, 32 gauge51=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 519,313,120, 30 gauge52=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 519,343,120, 34 gauge53=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio AP, 519,377,121, 34 gauge54=n_number_plaque!n_number_plaque, 210,387,65,19 //-------------------------------------------------------- [Window02] size_mm=456,520 window_size=0.5 position=8 BACKGROUND_COLOR=0,0,0 VISIBLE=0 ident=GPS_PANEL gauge00=MPI_GNS!GNS530, 0, 0, 456, 331, 1:1:225 gauge01=MPI_GNS!GNS430, 0, 331, 456, 189, 2:1:225 //-------------------------------------------------------- [Window03] file_1024=cessna_172_ifr_background.bmp file_1024_night=cessna_172_ifr_background_night.bmp size_mm=640 position=7 visible=0 ident=MAIN_PANEL_ALT1 no_luminous=1 zorder=1 view_window_rect=0,0,8192,1200 gauge00=Cessna!Altimeter, 279, 91,100, 99 gauge01=Cessna!Annunciator, 493, 81, 79, 20 gauge02=Cessna!Avionics Switch, 210,411, 40, 59 gauge03=Cessna!Flaps, 430,399, 61, 78 gauge04=Cessna!Fuel_Selector, 540,400, 98, 79 gauge05=Cessna!Heading_Indicator, 179,191,100, 99 gauge06=Cessna!Master_Alt_Bat, 2,414, 45, 55 gauge07=Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator, 574, 84, 16, 15 gauge08=Cessna!Nav GPS Switch, 589, 86, 13, 11 gauge09=Cessna!OMI_Lights, 609, 83, 31, 15 gauge10=Cessna!Pitch_Trim, 504,400, 24, 46 gauge11=Cessna!Turn_Indicator, 78,189,100,100 gauge12=Cessna!Vertical_Speed, 280,191,100,100 gauge13=Cessna!Vacuum_Ampermeter, 158,298, 73, 75 gauge14=Cessna172!Airspeed, 79, 90, 98, 97 gauge15=Cessna172!Alt_Static_Air, 271,449, 44, 30 gauge16=Cessna172!Clock, 1,122, 73, 72 gauge17=Cessna172!EGT_Fuel_Flow, 1,299, 73, 73 gauge18=Cessna172!Fuel, 1,220, 74, 72 gauge19=Cessna172!Fuel_Shutoff, 494,445, 43, 34 gauge20=Cessna172!Tachometer, 282,293, 98, 95 gauge21=Cessna172!Thrust_Controls, 321,414,102, 64 gauge22=Cessna172!Panel_Lights_Switch, 273,402, 38, 41 gauge23=Cessna182s!Oil_Press_Temp, 80,300, 73, 72 gauge24=Cessna182s!Switches, 51,429,151, 51 gauge25=CessnaWAlpha!ADF_Alpha, 387,292,100,100 gauge26=CessnaWAlpha!Attitude_Alpha, 179, 90,100, 99 gauge27=CessnaWAlpha!VOR1_Alpha, 385, 91,100,100 gauge28=CessnaWAlpha!VOR2_Alpha, 385,190,100,100 gauge29=CessnaWAlpha!Whiskey_Compass_Alpha, 471, 3, 43, 30 gauge30=SimIcons!Kneeboard Icon, 37,379, 12, 12 gauge31=SimIcons!ATC Icon, 51,379, 12, 12 gauge32=SimIcons!Map Icon, 65,379, 12, 12 gauge33=SimIcons!GPS Icon, 79,379, 12, 12 gauge34=SimIcons1024!VFR Icon, 93,379, 12, 12 gauge35=SimIcons1024!Landing Icon, 107,379, 12, 12 gauge36=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 496,102,143,27 gauge37=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 496,129,143,52 gauge38=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 2, 496,181,143,56 gauge39=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 496,236,143,35 gauge40=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 496,271,143,37 gauge41=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 496,308,143,43 gauge42=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio AP, 496,351,143,43 [Window04] file_1024=cessna_172_landing_background.bmp file_1024_night=cessna_172_landing_background_night.bmp size_mm=640 visible=0 no_luminous=1 ident=MAIN_PANEL_ALT2 windowsize_ratio=1.000 position=7 zorder=2 view_window_rect=0,0,8192,4900 gauge00=Cessna!Altimeter, 346,167, 79, 79 gauge01=Cessna!Annunciator, 517,159, 62, 15 gauge02=Cessna!Avionics Switch, 288,426, 37, 47 gauge03=Cessna!Flaps, 467,415, 48, 64 gauge04=Cessna!Fuel_Selector, 556,415, 82, 62 gauge05=Cessna!Heading_Indicator, 264,247, 81, 81 gauge06=Cessna!Master_Alt_Bat, 121,425, 40, 45 gauge07=Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator, 582,162, 12, 11 gauge08=Cessna!Nav GPS Switch, 595,162, 10, 10 gauge09=Cessna!OMI_Lights, 609,158 gauge10=Cessna!Pitch_Trim, 528,416, 21, 36 gauge11=Cessna!Starter, 71,422, 47, 52 gauge12=Cessna!Turn_Indicator, 185,247, 78, 78 gauge13=Cessna!Vertical_Speed, 346,247, 79, 79 gauge14=Cessna!Vacuum_Ampermeter, 122,334, 58, 58 gauge15=Cessna172!Airspeed, 185,167, 78, 78 gauge16=Cessna172!Alt_Static_Air, 339,453, 37, 27 gauge17=Cessna172!Clock, 122,193, 58, 58 gauge18=Cessna172!EGT_Fuel_Flow, 122,271, 58, 58 gauge19=Cessna172!Fuel, 61,270, 58, 58 gauge20=Cessna172!Fuel_Shutoff, 517,453, 36, 28 gauge21=Cessna172!Panel_Lights_Switch, 342,418, 30, 34 gauge22=Cessna172!Tachometer, 347,329, 78, 78 gauge23=Cessna172!Thrust_Controls, 375,425, 81, 55 gauge24=Cessna182s!Oil_Press_Temp, 62,334, 58, 58 gauge25=Cessna182s!Switches, 163,440,121, 41 gauge26=CessnaWAlpha!ADF_Alpha, 431,329, 79, 79 gauge27=CessnaWAlpha!Attitude_Alpha, 266,167, 78, 78 gauge28=CessnaWAlpha!VOR1_Alpha, 431,167, 79, 79 gauge29=CessnaWAlpha!VOR2_Alpha, 431,247, 79, 79 gauge30=CessnaWAlpha!Whiskey_Compass_Alpha, 499, 98, 35, 24 gauge31=SimIcons!Kneeboard Icon, 66,255 gauge32=SimIcons!ATC Icon, 78,255 gauge33=SimIcons!Map Icon, 90,255 gauge34=SimIcons!GPS Icon, 102,255 gauge35=SimIcons1024!VFR Icon, 114,255, 12, 12 gauge36=SimIcons1024!IFR Icon, 126,255, 12, 12 gauge37=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 519,177,120, 24 gauge38=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 519,200,120, 41 gauge39=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 2, 519,240,120, 42 gauge40=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 519,281,120, 32 gauge41=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 519,313,120, 30 gauge42=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 519,343,120, 34 gauge43=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio AP, 519,377,121, 34 gauge44=n_number_plaque!n_number_plaque, 210,387,65,19 [Window01] BACKGROUND_COLOR=2,2,2 size_mm=156,308 position=8 visible=0 ident=RADIO_STACK_PANEL zorder=3 gauge00=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 0, 0,156,31 gauge01=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 0, 29,156,59 gauge02=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 2, 0, 86,156,59 gauge03=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 0,142,156,41 gauge04=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 0,180,156,41 gauge05=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 0,217,156,49 gauge06=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio AP, 0,262,156,48 windowsize_ratio=1.000 window_pos=0.756,0.358 window_size=0.243,0.641 [Window02] size_mm=456,378 window_size=0.5 position=8 BACKGROUND_COLOR=0,0,0 VISIBLE=0 ident=GPS_PANEL zorder=4 gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500, 0,0 [Window05] position=7 size_mm=631,100 child_3d=1 background_color=0,0,0 no_luminous=1 ident=MINIPANEL gauge00=Cessna172!Airspeed, 0, 1 gauge01=Cessna!Turn_Indicator, 102, 0 gauge02=CessnaWAlpha!Attitude_Alpha, 207, 0 gauge03=Cessna!Heading_Indicator, 312, 0 gauge04=Cessna!Altimeter, 417, 0 gauge05=Cessna!Vertical_Speed, 531, 0 [VCockpit01] size_mm=512,512 pixel_size=512,512 texture=$C172s_1 background_color=0,0,0 gauge00=Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator, 69,457, 20, 19 gauge01=Cessna!VOR1, 259, 1,140,140 gauge02=Cessna!Nav GPS Switch, 45,456, 20, 21 gauge03=Cessna!ADF, 259,283,145,145 gauge04=Cessna172!EGT_Fuel_Flow, 400,109,107,107 gauge05=Cessna172!Fuel, 400, 1,107,107 gauge06=Cessna182s!Oil_Press_Temp, 405,325,107,107 gauge07=Cessna!OMI_Lights, 0,456, 44, 24 gauge08=Cessna!Vacuum_Ampermeter, 405,217,107,107 gauge09=Cessna!Annunciator, 0,481, 99, 25 gauge10=Cessna172!Whiskey_Compass, 100,456, 56, 39 gauge11=Cessna182s!VOR2, 259,142,140,140 gauge12=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 0, 0, 258, 50 gauge13=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 0, 51,258, 95 gauge14=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 2, 0,147,258, 95 gauge15=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 0,243,258, 66 gauge16=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 0,310,258, 66 gauge17=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 0,377,258, 78 gauge18=n_number_plaque!n_number_plaque, 188,468,89,25 [VCockpit02] size_mm=512,512 pixel_size=512,512 texture=$C172s_2 background_color=0,0,0 gauge00=Cessna!Heading_Indicator, 0, 0,163,162 gauge01=Cessna!Turn_Indicator, 164, 0,158,158 gauge02=Bell_206B!Attitude, 323, 0,158,158 gauge03=Cessna!Altimeter, 0,163,158,156 gauge04=Cessna172!Airspeed, 164,159,155,155 gauge05=Cessna!Vertical_Speed, 323,159,156,157 gauge06=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio AP, 0,321,258, 77 gauge07=Cessna172!Tachometer, 260,318,143,143 gauge08=Cessna172!Clock, 0,400, 86, 86 gauge09=Cessna!Flaps, 88,400, 78,105 [Views] VIEW_FORWARD_DIR= 8.0, 0.0, 0.0 [Color] Day=255,255,255 Night=255,255,255 Luminous=201,64,64 [Window06] window_pos=0.609375,0.000000 window_size=0.390625,0.291667 visible=1 ident=15431 zorder=99 gauge00=rxpGNS!GNS430,0,0,100,100 [Window08] window_pos=0.609375,0.587500 window_size=0.390625,0.412500 visible=0 ident=15327 zorder=99 gauge00=rxpGNS!GMA340,0,0,100,33.670033 gauge01=rxpGNS!GTX327,0,33.670033,100,44.107744 gauge02=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF,0,77.777777,50,22.222222 gauge03=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio AP,50,77.777777,50,22.222222 [Window09] position=0 window_size=0.062500,0.041667 visible=1 ident=15000 zorder=100 gauge00=rxpDrop!Stack,0,0,100,100
March 7, 201610 yr Commercial Member Did you create this panel.cfg? I ask because we have gauges that we install when we create a panel.cfg for our GNS units. The default sim gauges will never reflect LPV vertical guidance unless we hack the code... which isn't going to happen. We have provided replacement gauge. The file is MPI_CDIGauge.gau and contains replacement VOR instruments. Ed Wilson Mindstar AviationMy Playland - I69
March 7, 201610 yr I probably did create that panel and your gps unit shows up when i select the gps from the menu.. ..Maybe i should just reinstall your product into fsx again and the MPI_CDIGaige will reinstall I dont mind doing this as long as i don't have to reauthorize because i have no authorization left . Peter
March 7, 201610 yr Commercial Member I said nothing about needing to reinstall anything. Simply check to see if the MPI_CDIGauge.gau file is installed in the Gauges folder. Ed Wilson Mindstar AviationMy Playland - I69
March 7, 201610 yr MPI_CDIGauge.gau yes is it is in this folder G:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Gauges Pete
March 7, 201610 yr Commercial Member Ok... I've cleaned up your panel.cfg... a few words of wisdom: 1 - Do not run more than one 'brand' of GNS in your panel. If you're using RXP, ONLY RXP, if you're using Mindstar, ONLY Mindstar... don't mix and match. That goes for the default FS GNS as well. 2 - Keep your window entries in order... you ended up with two entries for Window02. Here's an updated one that uses the VOR gauges: // Panel Configuration file // Cessna 172sp // Copyright (c) 2001-2003 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. [Window Titles] Window00=Main Panel Window01=Radio Stack Window02=GPS_PANEL Window03=IFR Panel Window04=Landing View Window05=Mini Panel [Window00] file_1024=cessna_172_background.bmp file_1024_night=cessna_172_background_night.bmp size_mm=640 position=7 visible=1 no_luminous=1 ident=MAIN_PANEL zorder=0 windowsize_ratio=1.000 window_pos=0.0,0.0 window_size=1.000,1.000 view_window_rect=0,0,8192,4000 gauge00=Cessna!Altimeter, 346,167, 79, 79 gauge01=Cessna!Annunciator, 517,159, 62, 15 gauge02=Cessna!Avionics Switch, 288,426, 37, 47 gauge03=Cessna!Flaps, 467,415, 48, 64 gauge04=Cessna!Fuel_Selector, 556,415, 82, 62 gauge05=Cessna!Heading_Indicator, 264,247, 81, 81 gauge06=Cessna!Master_Alt_Bat, 121,425, 40, 45 gauge07=Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator, 582,162, 12, 11 gauge08=Cessna!Nav GPS Switch, 594,162, 12, 11 gauge09=Cessna!OMI_Lights, 609,158 gauge10=Cessna!Pitch_Trim, 528,416, 21, 36 gauge11=Cessna!Starter, 71,422, 47, 52 gauge12=Cessna!Turn_Indicator, 185,247, 78, 78 gauge13=Cessna!Vertical_Speed, 346,247, 79, 79 gauge14=Cessna!Vacuum_Ampermeter, 122,334, 58, 58 gauge15=Cessna172!Airspeed, 185,167, 78, 78 gauge16=Cessna172!Alt_Static_Air, 339,453, 37, 27 gauge17=Cessna172!Clock, 122,193, 58, 58 gauge18=Cessna172!EGT_Fuel_Flow, 122,271, 58, 58 gauge19=Cessna172!Fuel, 61,270, 58, 58 gauge20=Cessna172!Fuel_Shutoff, 517,453, 36, 28 gauge21=Cessna172!Panel_Lights_Switch, 342,418, 30, 34 gauge22=Cessna172!Tachometer, 347,329, 78, 78 gauge23=Cessna172!Thrust_Controls, 375,425, 81, 55 gauge24=Cessna182s!Oil_Press_Temp, 62,334, 58, 58 gauge25=Cessna182s!Switches, 163,440,121, 41 gauge26=CessnaWAlpha!ADF_Alpha, 431,329, 79, 79 gauge27=CessnaWAlpha!Attitude_Alpha, 266,167, 78, 78 gauge28=CessnaWAlpha!VOR2_Alpha, 431,247, 79, 79 gauge29=MPI_CDIGauge!KI209, 429,165, 83 gauge30=CessnaWAlpha!Whiskey_Compass_Alpha, 499, 98, 35, 23 gauge41=SimIcons!Kneeboard Icon, 66,255 gauge42=SimIcons!ATC Icon, 78,255 gauge43=SimIcons!Map Icon, 90,255 gauge44=SimIcons!GPS Icon, 102,255 gauge45=SimIcons1024!IFR Icon, 114,255, 12, 12 gauge46=SimIcons1024!Landing Icon, 126,255, 12, 12 gauge47=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 519,177,120, 24 gauge48=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 519,200,120, 41 gauge49=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 2, 519,240,120, 42 gauge50=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 519,281,120, 32 gauge51=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 519,313,120, 30 gauge52=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 519,343,120, 34 gauge53=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio AP, 519,377,121, 34 gauge54=n_number_plaque!n_number_plaque, 210,387,65,19 //-------------------------------------------------------- [Window01] BACKGROUND_COLOR=2,2,2 size_mm=156,308 position=8 visible=0 ident=RADIO_STACK_PANEL zorder=3 gauge00=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 0, 0,156,31 gauge01=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 0, 29,156,59 gauge02=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 2, 0, 86,156,59 gauge03=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 0,142,156,41 gauge04=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 0,180,156,41 gauge05=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 0,217,156,49 gauge06=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio AP, 0,262,156,48 windowsize_ratio=1.000 window_pos=0.756,0.358 window_size=0.243,0.641 //-------------------------------------------------------- [Window02] size_mm=456,520 window_size=0.5 position=8 BACKGROUND_COLOR=0,0,0 VISIBLE=0 ident=GPS_PANEL gauge00=MPI_GNS!GNS530, 0, 0, 456, 331, 1:1:225 gauge01=MPI_GNS!GNS430, 0, 331, 456, 189, 2:1:225 //-------------------------------------------------------- [Window03] file_1024=cessna_172_ifr_background.bmp file_1024_night=cessna_172_ifr_background_night.bmp size_mm=640 position=7 visible=0 ident=MAIN_PANEL_ALT1 no_luminous=1 zorder=1 view_window_rect=0,0,8192,1200 gauge00=Cessna!Altimeter, 279, 91,100, 99 gauge01=Cessna!Annunciator, 493, 81, 79, 20 gauge02=Cessna!Avionics Switch, 210,411, 40, 59 gauge03=Cessna!Flaps, 430,399, 61, 78 gauge04=Cessna!Fuel_Selector, 540,400, 98, 79 gauge05=Cessna!Heading_Indicator, 179,191,100, 99 gauge06=Cessna!Master_Alt_Bat, 2,414, 45, 55 gauge07=Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator, 574, 84, 16, 15 gauge08=Cessna!Nav GPS Switch, 589, 86, 13, 11 gauge09=Cessna!OMI_Lights, 609, 83, 31, 15 gauge10=Cessna!Pitch_Trim, 504,400, 24, 46 gauge11=Cessna!Turn_Indicator, 78,189,100,100 gauge12=Cessna!Vertical_Speed, 280,191,100,100 gauge13=Cessna!Vacuum_Ampermeter, 158,298, 73, 75 gauge14=Cessna172!Airspeed, 79, 90, 98, 97 gauge15=Cessna172!Alt_Static_Air, 271,449, 44, 30 gauge16=Cessna172!Clock, 1,122, 73, 72 gauge17=Cessna172!EGT_Fuel_Flow, 1,299, 73, 73 gauge18=Cessna172!Fuel, 1,220, 74, 72 gauge19=Cessna172!Fuel_Shutoff, 494,445, 43, 34 gauge20=Cessna172!Tachometer, 282,293, 98, 95 gauge21=Cessna172!Thrust_Controls, 321,414,102, 64 gauge22=Cessna172!Panel_Lights_Switch, 273,402, 38, 41 gauge23=Cessna182s!Oil_Press_Temp, 80,300, 73, 72 gauge24=Cessna182s!Switches, 51,429,151, 51 gauge25=CessnaWAlpha!ADF_Alpha, 387,292,100,100 gauge26=CessnaWAlpha!Attitude_Alpha, 179, 90,100, 99 gauge27=MPI_CDIGauge!KI209, 385, 91,100,100 gauge28=CessnaWAlpha!VOR2_Alpha, 385,190,100,100 gauge29=CessnaWAlpha!Whiskey_Compass_Alpha, 471, 3, 43, 30 gauge30=SimIcons!Kneeboard Icon, 37,379, 12, 12 gauge31=SimIcons!ATC Icon, 51,379, 12, 12 gauge32=SimIcons!Map Icon, 65,379, 12, 12 gauge33=SimIcons!GPS Icon, 79,379, 12, 12 gauge34=SimIcons1024!VFR Icon, 93,379, 12, 12 gauge35=SimIcons1024!Landing Icon, 107,379, 12, 12 gauge36=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 496,102,143,27 gauge37=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 496,129,143,52 gauge38=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 2, 496,181,143,56 gauge39=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 496,236,143,35 gauge40=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 496,271,143,37 gauge41=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 496,308,143,43 gauge42=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio AP, 496,351,143,43 [Window04] file_1024=cessna_172_landing_background.bmp file_1024_night=cessna_172_landing_background_night.bmp size_mm=640 visible=0 no_luminous=1 ident=MAIN_PANEL_ALT2 windowsize_ratio=1.000 position=7 zorder=2 view_window_rect=0,0,8192,4900 gauge00=Cessna!Altimeter, 346,167, 79, 79 gauge01=Cessna!Annunciator, 517,159, 62, 15 gauge02=Cessna!Avionics Switch, 288,426, 37, 47 gauge03=Cessna!Flaps, 467,415, 48, 64 gauge04=Cessna!Fuel_Selector, 556,415, 82, 62 gauge05=Cessna!Heading_Indicator, 264,247, 81, 81 gauge06=Cessna!Master_Alt_Bat, 121,425, 40, 45 gauge07=Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator, 582,162, 12, 11 gauge08=Cessna!Nav GPS Switch, 595,162, 10, 10 gauge09=Cessna!OMI_Lights, 609,158 gauge10=Cessna!Pitch_Trim, 528,416, 21, 36 gauge11=Cessna!Starter, 71,422, 47, 52 gauge12=Cessna!Turn_Indicator, 185,247, 78, 78 gauge13=Cessna!Vertical_Speed, 346,247, 79, 79 gauge14=Cessna!Vacuum_Ampermeter, 122,334, 58, 58 gauge15=Cessna172!Airspeed, 185,167, 78, 78 gauge16=Cessna172!Alt_Static_Air, 339,453, 37, 27 gauge17=Cessna172!Clock, 122,193, 58, 58 gauge18=Cessna172!EGT_Fuel_Flow, 122,271, 58, 58 gauge19=Cessna172!Fuel, 61,270, 58, 58 gauge20=Cessna172!Fuel_Shutoff, 517,453, 36, 28 gauge21=Cessna172!Panel_Lights_Switch, 342,418, 30, 34 gauge22=Cessna172!Tachometer, 347,329, 78, 78 gauge23=Cessna172!Thrust_Controls, 375,425, 81, 55 gauge24=Cessna182s!Oil_Press_Temp, 62,334, 58, 58 gauge25=Cessna182s!Switches, 163,440,121, 41 gauge26=CessnaWAlpha!ADF_Alpha, 431,329, 79, 79 gauge27=CessnaWAlpha!Attitude_Alpha, 266,167, 78, 78 gauge28=MPI_CDIGauge!KI209, 431,167, 79, 79 gauge29=CessnaWAlpha!VOR2_Alpha, 431,247, 79, 79 gauge30=CessnaWAlpha!Whiskey_Compass_Alpha, 499, 98, 35, 24 gauge31=SimIcons!Kneeboard Icon, 66,255 gauge32=SimIcons!ATC Icon, 78,255 gauge33=SimIcons!Map Icon, 90,255 gauge34=SimIcons!GPS Icon, 102,255 gauge35=SimIcons1024!VFR Icon, 114,255, 12, 12 gauge36=SimIcons1024!IFR Icon, 126,255, 12, 12 gauge37=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 519,177,120, 24 gauge38=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 519,200,120, 41 gauge39=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 2, 519,240,120, 42 gauge40=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 519,281,120, 32 gauge41=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 519,313,120, 30 gauge42=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 519,343,120, 34 gauge43=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio AP, 519,377,121, 34 gauge44=n_number_plaque!n_number_plaque, 210,387,65,19 //-------------------------------------------------------- [Window05] position=7 size_mm=631,100 child_3d=1 background_color=0,0,0 no_luminous=1 ident=MINIPANEL gauge00=Cessna172!Airspeed, 0, 1 gauge01=Cessna!Turn_Indicator, 102, 0 gauge02=CessnaWAlpha!Attitude_Alpha, 207, 0 gauge03=Cessna!Heading_Indicator, 312, 0 gauge04=Cessna!Altimeter, 417, 0 gauge05=Cessna!Vertical_Speed, 531, 0 [VCockpit01] size_mm=512,512 pixel_size=512,512 texture=$C172s_1 background_color=0,0,0 gauge00=Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator, 69,457, 20, 19 gauge01=MPI_CDIGauge!KI209, 259, 1,140,140 gauge02=Cessna!Nav GPS Switch, 45,456, 20, 21 gauge03=Cessna!ADF, 259,283,145,145 gauge04=Cessna172!EGT_Fuel_Flow, 400,109,107,107 gauge05=Cessna172!Fuel, 400, 1,107,107 gauge06=Cessna182s!Oil_Press_Temp, 405,325,107,107 gauge07=Cessna!OMI_Lights, 0,456, 44, 24 gauge08=Cessna!Vacuum_Ampermeter, 405,217,107,107 gauge09=Cessna!Annunciator, 0,481, 99, 25 gauge10=Cessna172!Whiskey_Compass, 100,456, 56, 39 gauge11=Cessna182s!VOR2, 259,142,140,140 gauge12=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 0, 0, 258, 50 gauge13=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 0, 51,258, 95 gauge14=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 2, 0,147,258, 95 gauge15=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 0,243,258, 66 gauge16=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 0,310,258, 66 gauge17=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 0,377,258, 78 gauge18=n_number_plaque!n_number_plaque, 188,468,89,25 [VCockpit02] size_mm=512,512 pixel_size=512,512 texture=$C172s_2 background_color=0,0,0 gauge00=Cessna!Heading_Indicator, 0, 0,163,162 gauge01=Cessna!Turn_Indicator, 164, 0,158,158 gauge02=Bell_206B!Attitude, 323, 0,158,158 gauge03=Cessna!Altimeter, 0,163,158,156 gauge04=Cessna172!Airspeed, 164,159,155,155 gauge05=Cessna!Vertical_Speed, 323,159,156,157 gauge06=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio AP, 0,321,258, 77 gauge07=Cessna172!Tachometer, 260,318,143,143 gauge08=Cessna172!Clock, 0,400, 86, 86 gauge09=Cessna!Flaps, 88,400, 78,105 [Views] VIEW_FORWARD_DIR= 8.0, 0.0, 0.0 [Color] Day=255,255,255 Night=255,255,255 Luminous=201,64,64 Ed Wilson Mindstar AviationMy Playland - I69
March 8, 201610 yr Hi Ed BTW. in case i did not say it earlier . really appreciate your help with this... Il try this Pete
March 27, 201610 yr So i have been busy working away on LVP approaches. Seems to me that even with an updated database and minstar 172 i cannot get the 172 to follow the glideslope on a LVP . I would expect the aircraft to follow the GS down after the FAF and gs intercept. In my case i get the gps was approach. ( lap ) . set the a/p to APP and ensure the approach is activated. Every time i try this the plane blows through the gs and never follows the gs down to DA . ( I've tried it both ways with alt enabled and disabled ). Any thoughts (btw I'm doing this on the mindstar texture 172) in fsx pete
March 27, 201610 yr Commercial Member There is no autopilot connection, sorry. That would require either we provide a custom autopilot or we hack the sim itself. Ed Wilson Mindstar AviationMy Playland - I69
March 28, 201610 yr Hey ED... correct me if im wrong but i thought that i read somewhere that one of the features of the mindstar gps 4/5 series was that it would fly lpv approaches with certain aircraft and give a gs indication ... Now maybe i misunderstood and that is fine... I will simply use it for lnav and lnav +v .. I am simply working to understand the functionality . I also understand that this functionality only would work in certain aircraft... Regardless i like the product... and thanks again... Pete
March 28, 201610 yr Commercial Member I think you're taking the term 'fly LPV approaches' and applying that as if it's an autopilot. It is not an autopilot, it's a navigation unit. It provides guidance, but does not actually control anything. It can not drive the sim's built-in glideslope needle without a hack. That's not going to happen. Since it doesn't drive the built-in needle value, then the built-in autopilot can't fly the glidepath. We do provide access to the glidepath needle value (it's a glidepath, not a glideslope) for developers to utilize. We also provide our own VOR gauges to display the nav needles correctly in other aircraft. Absolutely none of this is an autopilot. If you were flying the default 172 with our panel mod, then it should have a new VOR 1 instrument that is tied to our GNS units. To be certain, simply open the panel.cfg for our panel mod and look for MPI_CDIGauge!KI209. If that's in place, then when you are flying a WAAS approach (indicated with LPV) then you should see the vertical guidance needle come alive as you near the glidepath. So far, I'm getting the impression you're expecting the autopilot to fly the glidepath... and without a custom autopilot that pays attention to our glidepath variable, that's not going to happen. Ed Wilson Mindstar AviationMy Playland - I69
March 28, 201610 yr Ed Thanks you for the clarification , your description of my expectaion was 100 correct expectation "I think you're taking the term 'fly LPV approaches' and applying that as if it's an autopilot. It is not an autopilot, it's a navigation unit. It provides guidance, but does not actually control anything. It can not drive the sim's built-in glideslope needle without a hack. That's not going to happen. Since it doesn't drive the built-in needle value, then the built-in autopilot can't fly the glidepath." Your clarification is perfect and in fact I did do something correctly as the mindstar gauge is in the plane as i do get the needle indication. Thank you and thanks for helping me to understand the limitations. Regards Pete
March 28, 201610 yr Commercial Member No problem. We have released this: http://www.mindstaraviation.com/Product_KAP140.html I'm going to check to ensure it is WAAS aware, because I'm uncertain if it is. Ed Wilson Mindstar AviationMy Playland - I69
July 31, 20169 yr Hello, Ed, Is your KAP140 capable of WAAS autopilot guidance? I am interested in this gauge. Does your KAP140 work with all A/C? Even those that do not have an default autopilot. thanks, Steve
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