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Sidewinder Force Feedback 2 Joystick Compatibility

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Hi all!

The first beta of FSW seemed to be fully compatible with the Sidewinder Force Feedback 2. Following update then removed this capability, claiming it would crash the game for some users. It was not my case.

Any chance Dovetail can make this compatibility a on/off thing or a manual patch? Even a line change in a config file would do...

Issue is I'm quite accustomed to flying with Force Feedback. Plus I've invested a considerable amount of money and time in acquiring, repairing and overhauling my joystick. I was really hoping I could use it with what looks to be the next great flight simulator.

I'm aware other force feedback peripherals work (I own a Logitech Force 3D pro) but the force isn't nearly as strong and the immersion is therefore lacking.

Let me have your thoughts... if somebody from Dovetail reads this, first thing: congratulations on an exciting project, and secondly: help! ^_^

- Sam

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Hi there... still no news about this? Did anybody find a workaround, such as modifying the .cfg file? :)

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This is the only thing stopping me dipping my feet into the FSW water at the moment. After having used FSX with FS Force for a number of years, I wouldn't want to go back to simming without force feedback. If DTG were to confirm that force feedback would definitely be implemented in the release version, I would be happy to jump in now and support the project.

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No Force feed back and fs force software is a game changer. Was just starting to get into some of the vids about this new sim and like it ..till just now

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I'm having the same troubles. Sidewinder FF works fine in FSX:SE but in FSW it doesn't. It used to work but after reinstalling FSW it stopped working. The only thing on the FF is resistance but I can't use it to fly an aircraft.

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Did it cause any problems in the first version of FSW? Wondering why they decided to remove it.

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I had no issues to be sincere... I wonder what complaints they could have received. Why not create a patch to turn on/off whatever modification they did to the code? So the Sidewinder 2 owners can try their luck... :)

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14 hours ago, vortex681 said:

Did it cause any problems in the first version of FSW? Wondering why they decided to remove it.

I had no problems with the first installation of FSW. I removed FSW because I had more problems on my PC.

This is the information I've got from Dovetail : Force Feedback effects were removed in a recent update because of some users having compatibility issues. Dovetail is apparently trying to sort it out... let's hope they can do this soon.

 

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It was a problem in the FSW.cfg file.

After comparing the FSW.cfg.backup-file with the defect FSW.cfg file I found under controls this line : JOYSTICKS=0

I have removed this line and the joystick works perfect now.

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2 hours ago, BROGY said:

It was a problem in the FSW.cfg file.

After comparing the FSW.cfg.backup-file with the defect FSW.cfg file I found under controls this line : JOYSTICKS=0

I have removed this line and the joystick works perfect now.

Is this with the latest update of FSW? The FF2 is definitely working?

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Yes indeed. I have installed FSW on monday and I suppose the latest update has been installed.

After removing the line "Joystick=0" FSW works as it is supposed to be.

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21 hours ago, Duamutef_MC said:

What version of Windows are you using, Brogy? What version of the joystick driver are you using?

I am using Win10 and the software of the joystick that comes with Win10.

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I did check my config file... there is no "joystick=0" line - also, all other force feedback joystick I own work just fine. It's clear only the Sidewinder 2 is specifically inhibited by Dovetail as per the v2 release notes. Aimee, Chris, whoever: are you going to look into this? It worked just fine in v1!

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I THINK I GOT THIS!

Windows recognizes the joystick from its internal properties - meaning from the peripheral itself. The old model of the Force Feedback 2 (dark grey buttons) is declared as a generic joystick; the recent one (silver buttons) is declared as 'Sidewinder Force Feedback 2' - it's likely that the software checks just that, therefore the working joysticks are of the old model. New models are automatically inhibited by Flight Sim World - now: why is it so? My joystick was working just fine! Are you going to work on it anytime in the future, Dovetail?

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On 18 August 2017 at 8:28 AM, BROGY said:

Yes indeed. I have installed FSW on monday and I suppose the latest update has been installed.

After removing the line "Joystick=0" FSW works as it is supposed to be.

Downloaded FSW today only to find that my FF2 joystick is recognised and has the basic functions (including stick centring) but no force feedback. I also have no "Joystick=0" entry in my FSW.cfg.

When you say it works for you as it's supposed to, do you mean you get all of the normal force feedback effects?

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1 hour ago, AOB said:

You could try this

 

http://fs-force.com/download.htm

good  point apart from being fantastic fully configurable software it also runs outside of the sim platform

The DEV is very active

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2 minutes ago, vortex681 said:

It's a great piece of software which I already use with FSX. However, it Only works with FSX and P3D.

Im surprised to hear that. Have you contacted the DEV?

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My mistake sorry, got the sim mixed up with P3D v4

you are indeed correct, no support

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Wouldn't it be simpler for Dovetail to just rollback the Sidewinder Force Feedback 2 block instead of forcing us to buy 3rd part software?

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