November 22, 20178 yr 11 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said: No idea I’m afraid. I would guess 18-25 Celsius 25°C would be definitely too low. E.g. on the 767, 777 etc. the upper limit in auto mode is 30°C.
November 22, 20178 yr Author Moderator 6 minutes ago, J35OE said: 25°C would be definitely too low. E.g. on the 767, 777 etc. the upper limit in auto mode is 30°C. That seems very high. Maybe the pressurised air makes a higher temp necessary. Anyway, I thought you were going to tell me the PC12 range. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
November 22, 20178 yr 1 minute ago, Ray Proudfoot said: Anyway, I thought you were going to tell me the PC12 range. 18-30
November 22, 20178 yr Btw, the bleed air temperature on the PC-12 can get as high as 290°C and at the primary shutoff valve still more than 100°C, so in manual the range might be a tad higher.
November 22, 20178 yr Author Moderator 3 minutes ago, J35OE said: 18-30 Ta. I wasn't a million miles out. Can the code be hacked and corrected? Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
November 22, 20178 yr 42 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said: Ta. I wasn't a million miles out. Can the code be hacked and corrected? Turning off Tooltips will take care of it Bert
November 22, 20178 yr A better "real world" solution... The 0-100 readout is simply 0-100% of the knob range. Get a piece of graph paper... 0-100 in 10 increments on the X axis 18-30 degrees C on the Y axis. Draw the graph, and stick the graph to the edge of your computer monitor for reference when flying Bert
November 22, 20178 yr Author Moderator But despite the setting I make the displayed temp doesn’t change from 23. You all see the same? Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
November 22, 20178 yr AH.. that is different.. Here is the section in the actual POH: The Temperature Control System has two modes of operation as selected on the Auto/Manual switch. In the Auto mode, TCV operation is controlled by electrical signals from a cabin temperature sensor, located on the cabin headliner, to maintain the selected temperature between 18°C and 30°C. The TCV will move to allow more bleed air to bypass the Cooling Turbine if the cabin temperature is less than desired. Conversely it will move to pass more air through the Heat Exchanger and Cooling Turbine if the temperature is greater than desired. The temperature of the duct downstream is monitored by a temperature sensor and will limit the movement of the TCV as required to keep the duct temperature within the maximum and minimum temperature limits. In the Manual mode, a separate switch marked HOT and COLD directly controls the position of the TCV. CAUTION WHEN OPERATING IN THE MANUAL MODE THE SYSTEM MAXIMUM AND MINIMUM TEMPERATURE LIMITS ARE DISABLED AND THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF DAMAGING THE SYSTEM BY SETTING OUTLET TEMPERATURES OUTSIDE THESE LIMITS. THE MANUAL MODE SHOULD THEREFORE ONLY BE USED WHEN IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO CONTROL THE ECS AIR OUTLET TEMPERATURE USING THE AUTOMATIC MODE. From the mixing duct the conditioned air passes through a water separator. Moisture is removed from the conditioned air and drawn to the heat exchanger and sprayed into the heat exchanger intake. The conditioned air passes through the Firewall Shutoff Valve and the non-return valves to the cabin for distribution. The non-return valves prevent sudden depressurization in the event of a loss of cabin air supply. The air enters a small plenum where it is distributed to the cockpit and the cabin. Cockpit air is directed to adjustable outlets at the crews feet and adjustable outlets adjacent to the instrument panel. Air to the cabin is introduced through fixed outlets placed at floor level along both sides of the cabin. The ECS will automatically shut down when the engine starter is activated. INDICATION/WARNING Cabin air temperature is displayed on the center console forward of the engine power controls. Bert
November 22, 20178 yr And the corresponding code in the Carenado simulation: <Element id="AIR_TEMP"> <FloatPosition>100.000,60.000</FloatPosition> <Visibility>(A:CIRCUIT GENERAL PANEL ON, bool)</Visibility> <GaugeText id="AIR_TEMPT"> <Bright>True</Bright> <FontColor>0x005AFF</FontColor> <FontFace>LCD_MONO</FontFace> <FontHeight>70</FontHeight> <GaugeString>23 C</GaugeString> <HorizontalAlign>RIGHT</HorizontalAlign> <Size>150,70</Size> <Transparent>True</Transparent> </GaugeText> </Element> Bert
November 22, 20178 yr Author Moderator Crikey, thanks Bert. Where exactly do I paste that code? Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
November 23, 20178 yr No, that is the existing code... note the "23 C" If you can come up with a calculation, involving the outside temperature, the position of the knob, etc, we could display any value there instead of the 23 C.... Bert
November 23, 20178 yr Author Moderator 7 hours ago, Bert Pieke said: No, that is the existing code... note the "23 C" If you can come up with a calculation, involving the outside temperature, the position of the knob, etc, we could display any value there instead of the 23 C.... I suppose the obvious suggestion is to take the air temp from P3D itself. But this isn't really important to me. I was just curious why 23C couldn't be changed. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
November 23, 20178 yr 7 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said: I suppose the obvious suggestion is to take the air temp from P3D itself. But this isn't really important to me. I was just curious why 23C couldn't be changed. OK, if you come up with a suggestion, let me know! The P3D air temperature is the outside air temperature... probably don't want that at altitude.. could be chilly.. Bert
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