Hi there!

How can I back up, to later "import" the user waypoints I create in the GTN and also, in the GNS? Where are they located?

Thanks in advance,

 

Rafael Carelli

1 hour ago, zazaboeing said:

Hi there!

How can I back up, to later "import" the user waypoints I create in the GTN and also, in the GNS? Where are they located?

Thanks in advance,

 

Rafael Carelli

Hi Rafael,
GTN C:\ProgramData\Garmin\Trainers\GTN\FPLN

GNS C:\ProgramData\Garmin\GNS Trainer Data\GNS\FPL

Edited March 12, 20188 yr by bills511

Hi,

Please note the aforementioned locations are where to put the text file listing all the user waypoints to import in the device. However, there is no 'export' function on device to save such files: they are manually created with notepad (or equivalent). Only the GNS V2 also offers an 'export flight plan' function to save a route from the catalog to file.

Otherwise, every route / wpt / settings is saved in the device non-volatile memory file, which is typically located:

"C:\ProgramData\Garmin\GNS Trainer Data\GNS\sys_nand#" (GNS Trainer 3.3)
"C:\ProgramData\Garmin\Trainers\GTN\nonvol\sys_nand#" (GTN Trainer 6.41+)
"C:\ProgramData\Garmin\GTN Trainer Data\GTN\GTN1nonvol\sys_nand#" (GTN Trainer 6.21 and below)

sys_nand0 is the genuine 'clean' default file.
sys_nand# is the per-device, per-unit# file.

 

18 hours ago, bills511 said:

Hi Rafael,
GTN C:\ProgramData\Garmin\Trainers\GTN\FPLN

GNS C:\ProgramData\Garmin\GNS Trainer Data\GNS\FPL

Hi again Bill, it worked for the GTN, but not for the GNS. 

 

15 hours ago, RXP said:

Hi,

Please note the aforementioned locations are where to put the text file listing all the user waypoints to import in the device. However, there is no 'export' function on device to save such files: they are manually created with notepad (or equivalent). Only the GNS V2 also offers an 'export flight plan' function to save a route from the catalog to file.

Otherwise, every route / wpt / settings is saved in the device non-volatile memory file, which is typically located:

"C:\ProgramData\Garmin\GNS Trainer Data\GNS\sys_nand#" (GNS Trainer 3.3)
"C:\ProgramData\Garmin\Trainers\GTN\nonvol\sys_nand#" (GTN Trainer 6.41+)
"C:\ProgramData\Garmin\GTN Trainer Data\GTN\GTN1nonvol\sys_nand#" (GTN Trainer 6.21 and below)

sys_nand0 is the genuine 'clean' default file.
sys_nand# is the per-device, per-unit# file.

 

Thanks!! That's exactly what I was looking for!

So, backing up those files, I can reuse them in a later reinstall of the GTN/GNS right? (What if the Trainer version changes meanwhile?)

Rafael Carelli

Yes you can backup and restore these files. New trainer versions usually pickup the old sys_nand file and upgrade it if needed automatically, in-place.

As for the GNS import, please note the file format is different than for the GTN. These are xml files (see sample pack installed - ref user's manual)

7 minutes ago, RXP said:

Yes you can backup and restore these files. New trainer versions usually pickup the old sys_nand file and upgrade it if needed automatically, in-place.

As for the GNS import, please note the file format is different than for the GTN. These are xml files (see sample pack installed - ref user's manual)

I just read it in the manual, but as I see it only imports Flightplans, not user waypoints, right? I may be missing something, for sure.

There's no XML files in the sample pack :(

 

Rafael

The GNS flightplan files (.fpl) are actually written as XML files. Just the file extension is changed to FPL.

Edited March 13, 20188 yr by bills511

2 minutes ago, bills511 said:

The GNS flightplan files (.fpl) are actually written as XML files. Just the file extension is changed to FPL when using a flight planner.

I got that Bill, but what I'm trying to do is IMPORT USER WAYPOINTS to the GNS, not flight plans.

Edited March 13, 20188 yr by zazaboeing

1 minute ago, zazaboeing said:

I got that Bill, but what I'm trying to do is IMPORT USER WAYPOINTS to the GNS, not flight plans.

I'm not sure if that's possible with the GNS. I could be wrong thou.

1 minute ago, bills511 said:

I'm not sure if that's possible with the GNS. I could be wrong thou.

Thanks Bill!

Maybe @RXP can solve this mistery for us! 

Rafael Carelli

You can't import user waypoints in the GNS (IIRC). However, any flight plan with wpts no in the DB automatically create user wpts (IIRC too).

As for the FPL example, see ref. to "starter pack" p8 of the GNS V2 manual.