February 9, 20197 yr Author I remember my old Pacer - flap handle was middle floor and easy to reach so for getting off quick (essentially increasing the wing angle without banging the tail on the ground) as you felt it accelerate to a certain point, reach for the flaps - full down and hang on to the handle. Airborne but a bit nose high (similar to flaps down in the Spit) - relieve the nose and milk off the flaps with the release button. The tail never hit 'cause it was minimum elevator/all flap - like a forward moving little elevator.
February 9, 20197 yr @Murmur - New PC coming along for 2019! That's Great News! @Barfly - it's actually common to all variants - the nose down with flap deployment during approach. Gear down also cause slight pitching down moment. DCS models it correctly and so does IL-2 BoX, although both use different approaches to "stick fixed" modeling... Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
February 10, 20197 yr Author No argument - I just flew Pipers and they all pitch up with flap deployment - more flap more pitch. Cessnas now did pitch down some with flaps specially back when they still had a 40 degree setting. It was said a C170, in the flare with 40 degrees flap, could not go around without touching the landing surface. The Spitfire has only full down or up and that full down balloons just as my Pacer did with full flap.
February 10, 20197 yr Different GA, apparently similar, react differently to flap deployment regarding pitching moments. For instance the C310, B200 and B1900 are typical of low wing aircraft that exhibit a positive pitching moment due to flap deflection. Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
February 10, 20197 yr Author I suppose flaps applied in increments show lesser pitch change but when, like the Spit or my takeoffs, they're deployed immediately full, the pitch reaction is greatly increased. In Ernie Gann's great book "Fate is the hunter" he recall's a wartime takeoff in a converted B24. Apparently it was towards India's famous Taj Mahal and only the sudden application of full flaps allowed him to miss it.
February 11, 20197 yr 11 hours ago, olderndirt said: . Apparently it was towards India's famous Taj Mahal and only the sudden application of full flaps allowed him to miss it. Glad he missed it ☺️ i still have to visit the Taj Mahal , and what was he doing there in the first place. Back to the topic. Edited February 11, 20197 yr by HumptyDumpty Ryzen 5 1600x - 16GB DDR4 - RTX 3050 8GB - MSI Gaming Plus
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