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Radar Contact in my opinion is much better than the FS9 default except for VFR procedures which I believe they are working on for the next version. If fsx ATC isn't much improved over the current FS9 version I'll upgrade to the next version of RC if VFR is implemented and of course if it is compatible with FSX.Ian.

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Only VATSIM comes close to my dreams for ATC in FSX :-D

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>I know Jeppesen could provide>this sort of data and the MSFS team already use some of their>data - why not SIDs/STARs too.MSFS doesn't need to get SIDs/STARs data. I believe Radar Contact doesn't have this data built in either - yet it 'supports' SIDs (now called DPs) and STARs - it is your (users responsibility) to have charts and fly them. You don't need this info for the purpose of writing the ATC simulation.Michael J.http://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/for...argo_hauler.gifhttp://sales.hifisim.com/pub-download/asv6-banner-beta.jpg

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Guest Daniel Pimentel

How are VATSIM and Radar Contact different?On VATSIM you talk to real people.Daniel P.http://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/supporter.jpgMember of SJU Photography. [A HREF=http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=9004]Click Here[/A] to view my aircraft photos at JetPhotos.Net!The official psychotic AA painter. :)

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with radar contact, you have atc at every airport, every hour of every day, from departure to arrival.;-)jd

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i decided to get out of my forum, and check out the rest of the world. this thread caught my attention.how are you doing? might need another atlanta get-together, heh?jd

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I've never actually used Radar Contact but I doubt its got Heathrow, or for that matter UK procedures and phraseology spot on... The day I hear a piece of software say: "BAW227 land after the VC10, runway 27L" I'll know people are starting to take note :-D . Still I have no objections to improvements on the inbuilt ATC, if FS9 had Radar Contact built in I wouldn't "female dog" so much about it...

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we do have heathrow, and we have many (not all) of the international phraseologies implemented (thanks to a uk atc professional). we do transition altitudes, levels, etc.for instance you won't hear rc say "taxi into position and hold" in non - USA airports. it is "line up and wait"you'll hear decimal not pointyou'll hear climb FL70 not climb and maintain FL70the list goes on and on.but this is an FSX forum. check out our forum at http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=135jd

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For me, realistic ATC starts with realistic behavior of AI traffic, such as flight plans instead of great circle paths for both VFR and IFR AI. Flight plan generation based on Jeppesen data is quite feasible. Also, adding a little bit of intellect to AI pilots, just a primitive accident avoidance and some navigation/weather decision-making, will help improve the realsim of our virtual sky...=S.V.=

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