JeffThe engine size isnt the only problem. Initially they had figures approaching the claimed speeds in the first test aircraft but then had cooling problems as well as weight problems.The aircraft is very draggy and I noticed high power settings made only a small difference.But she is a beautiful and unusual aircraft the cowl almost looks like a work of art.Peterhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/141340.jpg

That's for sure. You definately have to have all your numbers straight. It is a very neat looking plane, no doubt.

>The TBM 850.....>Time to climb has increased dramatically... FL260 in 15 mins>FL310 in 20 mins and a long range cruise of 1500 nm.G'day Pete,Did you mean "increase" in the above statement?Cheers,Chris Porter:-outtaPerthWestern Australia

Yikes :-) Should have said "climb rate has increased dramatically. FL260 in 15 mins FL310 in 20 mins and a long range cruise of 1500 nm.:-) Peter

>I think to model this aircrafts sytems and avionics other than>in a gimmicky way would be very difficult.>I agree. All these avionics are about highly sepcialized databases, weather by subscription, etc. I can't imagine it would be possible to model all this stuff without a significant help from Garmin which would have to provide the actual software. Anything else would result in a "gimmicky" replica.Michael J.http://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/pmdg_744F.jpghttp://sales.hifisim.com/pub-download/asv6-banner-beta.jpg

Well, we tried having the artists pitch in on flight model programming but that didn't seem to work so well. ;)

Considering the revolution in air travel the Very Light Jets (VLJ's) such as the Eclipse and Mustang are predicted to bring, I really hope one of these will ship with FSX. My preference would be for the Eclipse, it does have over 2500 orders worldwide right now so it will likely be the one most of us will see first of this new genre of jets.