August 9, 20196 yr Hi guys, I realize there is a similar thread just below, but I don't want to take up that user's thread. I'm considering switching from FSX:SE after coming back to simming with a new PC build. After looking at the system requirements I'm not 100% sure which version to go with the older 3 or the newer'ish 4. I think my new CPU is fine, Ryzen 3700X with an eventual upgrade to a higher core count 4xxx or if those move to a new socket then a discounted 16/32 thread 3950X next year. However I'm currently still running a 1070 SC from EVGA for graphics and the v4 specs mention "for example GTX 1080". Now, I do plan to upgrade the GPU within a year so I'm thinking V4 will be the right choice even if I need to lower some details for a bit? Likely upgrade will be the next gen RTX cards (21xx or 3xxx whatever name they go with), but I might do a 2080 Super if timing works on $$$ and just selling my old system with the 1070 included. Any thoughts? I'm not worried about addon compatibility at this point, just getting a sim that runs decently on modern hardware without the weird glitches that even the Steam Edition FSX has with the Fixer running even. AMD Ryzen 9950X3D | Asrock X870E Taichi | Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 w/EK waterblock | Full Custom Loop Cooling | Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5-6000 | Samsung & WD NVME/SSDs | Phanteks Enthoo 719 | Seasonic Vertex Gold 1200W | Keychron Q5 Max | Corsiar Scimitar Elite SE Wireless | Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo | Logitech Pro Flight Pedals | VKB Gladiator Pro NXT L&R handed | MiniCockpit MiniFCU | Alienware AW34DWF | Asus PG279Q | Win 11 Pro
August 9, 20196 yr v4 is a 64-bit code. That's basically all you need to know and hardly anyone is developing for 32-bit (v3). Cheers. MSI Pro Z690-A DDR4 | i5 13600KF | G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3600MHz | RTX 3080 (12GB) | Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe 1TB | Samsung 850EVO 500GB | Crucial P3+ 2TB NVMe | 2TB Seagate HDD | Deepcool AK500 CPU Cooler | Thrustmaster T16000M HOTAS | CH Yoke | Various Winctrl hardware | 21:9 1440p UW monitor | Win 11 23H2 build | MSFS2020 | Tony K.
August 9, 20196 yr Run away from 32bit no matter what. You can invest lots in your hardware but won’t help a bit when you’ll hit that OOM. Besides with same hardware I got significant improvement in performance when switching from v3 to v4. I don’t know how fast that ryzen is but keep in mind that CPU clock is quite important factor, not only number of cores. Regarding graphics you’re fine. I’m on 1070 and was not problematic with i7 6700 (without K) and i switched to i9 9900 and it’s sweet and have no need for better GPU. In the end no matter what a beast of a computer you buy moving all sliders to the right will bring your computer to it’s knees. To cut a long story short, you won’t have any advantage if you choose v3 over v4. You’ll get worse performance and you’ll have to deal with constant annoying OOMs. Luka Albreht
August 9, 20196 yr Author 4 minutes ago, speedyTC said: v4 is a 64-bit code. That's basically all you need to know and hardly anyone is developing for 32-bit (v3). Cheers. 2 minutes ago, luka319 said: Run away from 32bit no matter what. You can invest lots in your hardware but won’t help a bit when you’ll hit that OOM. Besides with same hardware I got significant improvement in performance when switching from v3 to v4. I don’t know how fast that ryzen is but keep in mind that CPU clock is quite important factor, not only number of cores. Regarding graphics you’re fine. I’m on 1070 and was not problematic with i7 6700 (without K) and i switched to i9 9900 and it’s sweet and have no need for better GPU. In the end no matter what a beast of a computer you buy moving all sliders to the right will bring your computer to it’s knees. To cut a long story short, you won’t have any advantage if you choose v3 over v4. You’ll get worse performance and you’ll have to deal with constant annoying OOMs. LOL wow I totally missed the 32 vs 64 bit part. Yeah that settles that completely for sure. Thanks! Maybe I can actually make use of some of my RAM for once in a sim lol. I also went from 16 to 32GB with the new system. AMD Ryzen 9950X3D | Asrock X870E Taichi | Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 w/EK waterblock | Full Custom Loop Cooling | Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5-6000 | Samsung & WD NVME/SSDs | Phanteks Enthoo 719 | Seasonic Vertex Gold 1200W | Keychron Q5 Max | Corsiar Scimitar Elite SE Wireless | Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo | Logitech Pro Flight Pedals | VKB Gladiator Pro NXT L&R handed | MiniCockpit MiniFCU | Alienware AW34DWF | Asus PG279Q | Win 11 Pro
August 9, 20196 yr 53 minutes ago, flyinion said: Hi guys, I realize there is a similar thread just below, but I don't want to take up that user's thread. I'm considering switching from FSX:SE after coming back to simming with a new PC build. After looking at the system requirements I'm not 100% sure which version to go with the older 3 or the newer'ish 4. When migrating from FSX-SE to P3D myself, I initally started with P3D v3, mostly because at the time my fav addins (Accu-Sim and A2A and various others) had not yet been ported to P3D v4 (which is 64 bit as opposed to 32 bit). The biggest difference in P4D v4 is no more OOMs, where in FSX-SE and P3D v3 required careful managment of scenery and many saves during a flight to enable recovery. You kind of forget about OOMs when flying in P3D v4 and only remember what a pain an OOM was when going back to flying the 32 bit sims. As soon as my fav addins were ported I jumped straight to P4D v4 and have not looked back. I curently run a Ryzen 1700 OC to 4.1 Ghz with a 1070 Ti GFX card and if you want to have a look at the sort of performance and general look/feel I'm getting take a look at some vids I've made over time. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUG1HQzuefdKPC0Wg2t5Bxg/videos Also here is a Steam link discussing OOMs which includes a post made some time ago regarding my migration from FSX-SE to P3D v3. https://steamcommunity.com/app/314160/discussions/0/1489992080507529815/#c1621726179574247286 Hope the above helps with your decision and I'm keen to hear what sort of performance the new Ryzen gives. I wanted to purchase one myself (the 12 core) but they sold out the day of release (08/08/2019) here. Cheers Edited August 9, 20196 yr by Rogen typos Ryzen 5800X clocked to 4.7 Ghz (SMT off), 32 GB ram, Samsung 1 x 1 TB NVMe 970, 2 x 1 TB SSD 850 Pro raided, Asus Tuf 3080Ti P3D 4.5.14, Orbx Global, Vector and more, lotsa planes too. Catch my vids on Oz Sim Pilot, catch my screen pics @ Screenshots and Prepar3D
August 9, 20196 yr Author 21 minutes ago, Rogen said: I curently run a Ryzen 1700 OC to 4.1 Ghz with a 1070 Ti GFX card and if you want to have a look at the sort of performance and genral look/feel I'm getting take a look at some vids I've made over time. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUG1HQzuefdKPC0Wg2t5Bxg/videos Also here is a Steam link discussing OOMs which includes a post made some time ago regarding my migration from FSX-SE to P3D v3. https://steamcommunity.com/app/314160/discussions/0/1489992080507529815/#c1621726179574247286 Hold the above helps with your decision and I'm keen to hear what sort of performance the new Ryzen gives. I wanted to purchase one myself (the 12 core) but they sold out the day of release (08/08/2019) here. Cheers Great thanks for the info I'll be sure to check the vids out this weekend. Yeah, I really wanted a 3900X but they've been sold out for a month, and for most games 3900, 3800, 3700 are all essentially the same especially at 1440p. The 3900X was more for "I want it" for "potential multi-threaded stuff" like wanting to do more photo/video editing stuff. Whether I'd actually use it who knows lol. Previous system was a 4790K at 4.4 all cores. I know I won't see a huge overall impact on more single threaded stuff like general games and FSX, but sounds like from a few posts I've seen P3D v4 actually makes better use of multi-core so that's cool. AMD Ryzen 9950X3D | Asrock X870E Taichi | Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 w/EK waterblock | Full Custom Loop Cooling | Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5-6000 | Samsung & WD NVME/SSDs | Phanteks Enthoo 719 | Seasonic Vertex Gold 1200W | Keychron Q5 Max | Corsiar Scimitar Elite SE Wireless | Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo | Logitech Pro Flight Pedals | VKB Gladiator Pro NXT L&R handed | MiniCockpit MiniFCU | Alienware AW34DWF | Asus PG279Q | Win 11 Pro
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