February 22, 20206 yr I just started flying the falcon. When on autopilot and cruise speed, the plane suddendly pitches up as soon as I pull back on the throttles before starting my descent. I don't understand why a throttle movement would cause an extreme aircraft pitch behavior. I've checked for spikes and everything is calibrated correctly. Does anyone else experience this? P3D , separate trim wheel, separate throttle quadrant, win 7. thanks tony
February 22, 20206 yr Not normal behavior...never seen that here. Sounds like you may have a "phantom" assignment of a throttle axis to the elevator, trim, speed brake, etc. It could be in the sim, or in FSUIPC if you use that. Check the assignments for every controller listed in the P3D Controls menu and in FSUIPC that there are no unintended axis assignments. Odd, though, that you don't see it before that point. It may also be possible, though not likely, that an out-of-limits aft CG (eg from a nonstandard fuel burn) could manifest itself that way when the nose-down moment from the tail-mounted engines is reduced when pulling power for the initial descent. I'd also watch the trim gauge to see if there's a big and/or sudden change at that point, and watch the yokes to see if there's a large autopilot input. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
February 22, 20206 yr 1 hour ago, flyforever said: When on autopilot and cruise speed, the plane suddendly pitches up as soon as I pull back on the throttles before starting my descent. I don't see this, and don't recall any other similar reports. I use win10 and P3Dv4.5. If ALT hold is on, the a/c will slowly pitch up as the airspeed falls in an attempt to hold the altitude at lower airspeeds. Al
February 22, 20206 yr Author Well, in my case, the aircraft goes into convulsions. I'll explore and see what might be the issue. tc
February 23, 20206 yr If it's an actual control surface deflection (Watch the yoke to see if it's pulling back) then check that you haven't assigned the axis to both FSUIPC and P3D - they'll fight eachother. Otherwise I would suggest verifying the AP mode you're in, if you have IAS and ALT hold on, chopping the throttle in cruise will cause a pitch up and perhaps porpoising while the AP tries to find the right pitch attitude to maintain your selected altitude. James Burke
February 23, 20206 yr 31 minutes ago, paradoxbox said: ......... if you have IAS and ALT hold on, chopping the throttle in cruise will cause a pitch up and perhaps porpoising while the AP tries to find the right pitch attitude to maintain your selected altitude. I don't think you can have ALT Hold and IAS on at the same time with the autopilot. IAS, like VS, is a pitch mode for climbing or descending, not for cruise at a fixed altitude. Perhaps you meant ALTSEL, because if in a stable climb or descent with IAS (or VS) and ALTSEL, chopping the power will necessitate pitch changes by the autopilot as it tries to maintain the climb or descent IAS (or VS). Other thoughts welcome, Al
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