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I no longer have a default 4.5 to check KBUR but in V5 the aiport is practically devoid of buildings. In 4.5 I had a long row of gates along rwy 8-26. In v5 there is one small structure.  Anyone seeing anything different.  I have Orbx NCA,SCA and PNW installed.

Vic

 

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2 hours ago, vgbaron said:

I no longer have a default 4.5 to check KBUR but in V5 the aiport is practically devoid of buildings. In 4.5 I had a long row of gates along rwy 8-26. In v5 there is one small structure.  Anyone seeing anything different.  I have Orbx NCA,SCA and PNW installed.

Vic

Vic, I just checked, and have Hangars and default buildings but no gates. I have PNW, but not installed. Using Orbx NA LC

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Perhaps P3D v5 is trying to emulate XPlane v9-10, which likewise had no buildings at airports.

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1 hour ago, ZKOKQ said:

Vic, I just checked, and have Hangars and default buildings but no gates. I have PNW, but not installed. Using Orbx NA LC

I have just one building on the south side of rwy 26 and a few smaller ones alongside 15. 

Strange.

 

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10 minutes ago, vgbaron said:

I have just one building on the south side of rwy 26 and a few smaller ones alongside 15. 

Strange.

Yes, it is. Even what I see is not right. No AI loading either. Runway, taxiways and a few buildings

 

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I get ai but also noticed taxiways and other airport markings are missing. Hopefully it's something they will fix in the hotfix.

 

 

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Good Morning Gentlemen,

I've been an AFCAD/ADE addict for years and in 4.5 I've got about 200+ fields that I've reworked. Through 4.5 when starting from stock I most always found a certain base level of stock items- boundary fences (usually), at least a couple of GA spots and a building or two. Only exceptions to this were for very small bush fields and almost all military bases. Bush strips I understand but never really understood why almost none of the stock military bases in P3D have any parking at all, but that's a topic for another thread. While working on stock fields I always find errors- parking without links, misaligned items, parking in the wrong areas, etc.- but at least the basics were there.

Jon released an ADE developer version for 5.0 on Tuesday so off I went on my ADE trail, starting with my home field of KMLB. 4.5 stock had 7 gates, 1 short but ok, and 40+ GA spots scattered about. First V5 start and selected KMLB. Wanted to set my default start at a GA spot and surprisingly there were no parking spots listed in the drop down. Weird, I thought, so started on 9R to take a look. Long story short visually KMLB is different so they have obviously touched it. Only 4 gates and didn't see any taxi lines, apron edge lights, lots of buildings missing, etc.

Opened up the stock V5 in ADE and found this:

KMLB 4.5

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KMLB 5.0

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As you can see, except for the 4(!) gates no parking at all. There is one fuel spot but no apron path so it's not active. They did very kindly add in most of the taxiways and autogen buildings for the Embraer complex on the north side of 9L/27R and reworked the Northrup Grumman complex on the south side of 9R/27L. Missing is any GA parking, 4 gates, apron edge lighting and several other more minor details. They seemed to focus a lot on getting almost all of the taxiway infrastructure correct as of about a year ago.

Vic, I took a look at KBUR and found this:

KBUR V4.5

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KBUR V5.0

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As you can see, no parking at all. And they added a LOT of buildings.

Bottom line to all of this, so far I've checked about 30 fields, ones that I did for 4.5, and 17 of those 30 have minimal or no GA parking. I'm working on a list for LM but the Hot Fix has already closed for additions so I don't expect any changes for next weeks fix. I'm going to check about 20 more and then post the list at LM.

Sorry for the lengthy reply but I think it's important for folks to understand why airplanes, especially GA, aren't showing up at some fields.

Stay healthy everyone!

Gerald

 

 

 

 

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Thanx for the detail Gerald. I'll pick up v7 and take a look cuz what I see looks nothing like it should.

 

Vic

edit: turns out with Orbx SoCal disabled I get all the buildings. Have a post in Orbx forum now.

 

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