Hi People !I am flying now over 10 years and really enjoy the MS-FS products so far. There are 2 major issues that really dissapoint me extremly and i thought that FSX would have solved it.1) If you make a flight plan from Europe to US - the computer will generate a root that is ridiculuous. e.g. LOWW to KJFK - the flight planer sends your through the the southern part of the atlantic ocean close to the caribean islands and then north back up.or EDDF to KLAX you will fly through greenland to Alaska and then back south to Californa. But this porblem is not of so much importance as you can get your own flight plan build from some add ons. Still i think its ignorant from the MS poeple to not fix this problem.2) the second issue is much more important and this is the weather issue. If you go into the option - real-weather with 15 minutes update.If you have bad weather somewhere with clouds or snow at the airport - then you take off and short after take off - the weather changes immediately from overcast to scatterd clouds which is so so so unrealistic. Same as you are on an approach where you see the runway and from one sec. to the next its overcast and no visibility. I mean these changes need to be done progressively like in real world. Please tell me your opinion to these 2 issues.thanks Marek from LOWW

These two issues have been a part of FS since the beginning. That's why there are 3rd part flightplanners and weather programs.I have not messed with the flightplanner yet but I thought there was more flexibility in setting waypoints. Did you check out the Learning Center for info.?Randall

Is the "flight planner" perfect? Nope. But now it is easier than ever to "hand tweak" the flight plan using the map display.Create new 'fixes' quickly by dragging and droppingDelete unrealistic waypoints quickly

I don't really know what you are talking about. Maybe you are doing a VOR to VOR flight plan, or something like that? In the flight planner, if you select IFR - Direct/GPS routing you will be routed direct from LOWW to KJFK, and it will be an accurate great circle routing, which is roughly how they do it in the real world, at least in my experience from flights between the US and Germany.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2.5 ghz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (94.47), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2 GB Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8, WD 250 gig 7200 rpm SATA2, CoolerMaster Praetorian

Real transatlantic flights between Europe and the US can take some unusual routes, this is because the favoured choice for North Atlantic Tracks can literally change on a daily basis. Return trips often use more southerly routes to take advantage of other winds.In any case, what generally happens is meteorological aircraft fly out into the Atlantic and assess the winds to determine the best routes for a particular day and the tracks which best suit the route are then given preference and assigned to various scheduled flights at particular times (you may have seen one of the UK aircraft responsible for this job at an airshow - a C-130 with a big red and white striped probe on the nose), this is to take advantage of the jetstreams and prevailing winds for the occasion and is a large part of what the Shanwick staff have to deal with.Criteria such as this are particularly important in view of the fact that most Transatlantic aircraft would actually be incapable of making it up to the ideal cruise altitude until they had burned off some of the initial fuel load for the trip, not unusual when you consider that the fuel for a 747 on a typical transatlantic flight weighs more than the aircraft itself when empty.Thus most trips feature a stepped climb up to the desired cruise altitude which may have to go through some wildly varying wind vectors.To really emulate this kind of thing would require you to plan your flight based on this data and download real weather data to match that. This is where actually being able to alter the waypoints and fly expected routes comes into play and is also why the PMDG 747 offers by far the most realistic opportunity to emulate that kind of thing. So you might find that some of the automatic routes which FS computes are not so outlandish as they might at first appear, although if they are, you can of course alter them, which is your job as a pilot. And bearing in mind that FSX now models atmospheric conditions far better than previous versions, you would do well to do this kind of thing if you fly on realistic settings, as maximum rough air penetration speeds will hve to be adhered to far more closely than they were in previous FS versions. This is what they mean when they say 'as real as it gets'.Happy landings :-)

This is not unusual routing but amazing bad routing. This is worse than FS9 ever hoped to be. At least in FS9 EGLL to KJFK would be a reasonable route. FSX takes you down to the canary islands and then to NYC.How they went backward on this is amazing. I am not sure any of the flight planners are available yet for FSX. Of course, there are no FMC's yet either.

I agree that the routes FS might come up with can be rather odd, but much of that will be to do with the route planner routines having priorities to use VORs or NDBs or whatever. This of course is not what happens in the real world, so it's hard to imagine something in FS that would select a route for you realistically, when real world airline pilots do not click a piece of software and have a route calculated for them, and if they do, it is via an aircraft's FMC, which you can use if an FS aircraft is suitably equiped.The fact that you can't just click on something in a flight planner and have a realistic route made up for you, is ironically, realistic.

The interesting thing is all the other routes - eg . asia-US, europe - asia - us - australia are looking fine to me.And of course if you put in direct GPS it gives you the straight rout - but i always chose IFR. Still its VERY stange that only Europe - US are so completly wrong. I know that winds are changing flight routes but no aircraft is going down to algeria and then back up no the states.BUT WHAT CONCERNS me more is this weather issue. In real time weather mode - sometimes if you have overcast at the airport - you depart and from one sec. to the next you have a totally different weather scenario where you can see down below and its not anymore overcast. And i was so much hoping that FS X would handle that important unrealistic issue. Makes completly NO sense. Same on the approach - nice weather and from one sec to the next - overcast.Ridiculous - is activesky handling that problem ??Marek

Mace, you have a very similar rig to me. Is your AMD chip a San Diego core? Mine is, and I'm considering overclocking from the stock 2.2GHz. If I get to 2.5GHz I'd be quite happy :)