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Flight model in MSFS according to aerosoft

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8 hours ago, Chock said:

Interestingly, if you can do that, whilst it demonstrates you have good control and passengers would probably applaud at such a smooth arrival from their point of view, ironically it's not what the bosses at airlines prefer. They want their pilots to get the thing down fairly positively.

The reason for that is, when you bring it in very lightly, the tires skitter about as they lightly grip the surface passing over several hundred feet of concrete before being down with enough weight on them to start rolling at the actual speed the aeroplane is going. That puts quite a large amount of wear on them, and it can also make the tires creep on the rims too, whereas if you whack the tires down fairly hard, the instantaneous weight on the wheels means the tires grip quickly and start rolling at speed immediately, which puts less wear on them, and you can commence braking sooner.

Additionally, the detection of positive weight on the wheels by switches in the landing gear oleos, triggers two things in an airliner; the lift dump spoilers activating, and the roll rate inhibitor on the ailerons engaging to help in preventing pod strikes from large aileron deflections. If your wheels are skittering about and making the weight on the wheels sensors go on and off, it'll play havoc with the aileron deflection rates. So really, you're better off getting the thing down quite hard in a pretty definite way.

I didnt say what the airline bosses prefer. I said what I do...

My father was an airline pilot for 40 years and of course i know you have to force the plane in the ground specially on short runways of downtown commuter airports

But still, my comment stated just that yes, smooth landings are possible and i do them nearly all the time

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7 minutes ago, kapitan said:

I didnt say what the airline bosses prefer. I said what I do...

My father was an airline pilot for 40 years and of course i know you have to force the plane in the ground specially on short runways of downtown commuter airports

But still, my comment stated just that yes, smooth landings are possible and i do them nearly all the time

Don't worry, it wasn't a pop at you, it was just some interesting info I thought people would like since it came up in the topic, and you'll note that I did say it demonstrated you had good control skills if you could do it, which is why I put that so you'd know I wasn't having a go at you! 

Incidentally, my dad (in addition to being an aircraft engineer) was the mayor of my home town, but that doesn't mean I know anything about how to run a town, although it did mean I got to cadge lifts in a posh limo with flags on it sometimes. 🤣

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7 hours ago, Chock said:

Yup, me too. Seems with them touting the air modeling being super-duper, a sailplane would be the usable proof of this.

If I'm not mistaken at least one 3PD is already in the process of creating one, so provided it has a reasonably accurate flight model we shouldn't have to wait long to form opinions based on that metric.

3 minutes ago, High_Alpha said:

If I'm not mistaken at least one 3PD is already in the process of creating one, so provided it has a reasonably accurate flight model we shouldn't have to wait long to form opinions based on that metric.

Yup, in fact I seem to recall seeing a screenshot of it in the FS hangar in some video recently, which means it can't be far off release if it is in the sim with a complete model and textures.

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