"The inept who have no idea how to install a product" I don't who the above statement was aimed at, but it nailed me and several others right between the eyes for no good reason. I've been simming with FS since it was dos based and in not one of those versions have I had a problem installing the game. Nor have I had a problem activating it. This version was a nightmare on several hundered systems on both issues that I'm sorry was not people who are, in your opinion 'inept'. I personally don't believe that you should take shots in the dark with a blindfold on. I fully agree on the whinners who crank the sliders up then pitch a #### or the ones who can't accept anything less then 100+ fps. But then again, when you have new commers to the FS world that have been playing Halflife and other FPS games, they look for things like that and don't understand that sims are a different story, even driving sims. Your not going to get high fps with all the calcs that is going on. Anyway, my point is, think before you start shooting off your mouth. There are plenty of very experienced people in this commnity who have had major headaces this time around on simple things that should have never been a problem.Dan

Lets see now, isn't Vista another $400?! :-hang