7 minutes ago, jpe828 said:

You are way too slow there... I tend to agree that with the flight model right now you kind of drive the airplane on. If you flare any airplane in the sim it floats and floats.. like a lack of gravity. I believe the jet has trailing link gear anyways... but you mention the F16.. this is not an F16. I have found the sweet spot for landing and tend to get it on there pretty good. One thing I recommend is pushing the yoke forward and getting that nosewheel down in a hurry. Helps maintain control. 

I only did the very low speed to see what speed was needed to get the AoA. It should be on AoA at the RF. I dont have any probelms landing or anything else. I just want to see the AoA at what it should be on the right speed. 

The very slow appr was to find how far out it is at the moment. Call it beta testing. In older vid's the AoA is on target at the right speeds. It must be the world update that knocked it out.

I thought the topic was clear its about AoA being right on speed.

On 2/25/2021 at 2:37 AM, MattNischan said:

The orange and green AoA indicator is indeed not totally perfect, and we still have a bit of flaps lift adjustment to dial in (although the latest version has the flaps workaround baked in). That being said Vref should be quite close to 0.6 on the indexer.

Our flight model guru is busy on the Aerosoft CRJ at the moment, but there will be some more stuff coming to the CJ4 soon.

-Matt

Hi Matt,

Ive just tested the CJ4 with the HF and it's AoA with the HF is far better. Far closer to AoA on speed. FYI

On 3/2/2021 at 5:50 PM, Nyxx said:

Hi Matt,

Ive just tested the CJ4 with the HF and it's AoA with the HF is far better. Far closer to AoA on speed. FYI

Hi, Just wondering what you mean by HF? I bring the WT CJ4 into land with the green doughnut, throttles to idle over threshold, but, its landing very heavy, I've tried a flare but it floats a long way without coming down.

3 hours ago, Tezbedz said:

Hi, Just wondering what you mean by HF? I bring the WT CJ4 into land with the green doughnut, throttles to idle over threshold, but, its landing very heavy, I've tried a flare but it floats a long way without coming down.

HF = hot fix for when there was a problem with it not being in the right AoA when on speed.  When your on the right AoA ( green doughut) you dont need to flare as long as your VS is right, just cut the trottle. Hence why you need to be on the right AoA.

9 hours ago, Nyxx said:

HF = hot fix for when there was a problem with it not being in the right AoA when on speed.  When your on the right AoA ( green doughut) you dont need to flare as long as your VS is right, just cut the trottle. Hence why you need to be on the right AoA.

Thanks. If I'm coming in at VRef and I have just green doughnut, shouldnt I also have the correct VS? I seem to be landing heavy 350fpm.

Disconnect AP at 500' keep everything stable only using slight control input, reduce throttle over threshold, she drops like a brick.

I've also noticed on the GS she is high according to PAPI.

 

Cut the throttle at 20ft - 15ft not threshold.

When you close to landing dont go by the PAPI

Edited May 5, 20215 yr by Nyxx

On 2/25/2021 at 7:40 AM, Nyxx said:

You cannot trim pitch for AoA with AP on like you can in a F-16/F-18.

 

 

On 2/24/2021 at 7:53 PM, Nyxx said:

I have over 200 hours in DCS F-16 and a big part of that aircraft is how it lands and its all about AOA, then I have a few hundred hours in the DCS F-18 with a lot of super carrier landing again all about AOA.

Now the CJ4 AOA is .6, after entering wind temp etc in the FMS and it gives landing speeds, they never get you close to the AOA

 

I think you guys that are comparing a passenger airliner to a military F16 are barking up the wrong tree. 🐕

Ignore angle of attack. I don't know any airliner pilot that obsesses about angle of attack. Nice indication to have, but concentrate on airspeed, flaps, etc. 

On 2/25/2021 at 11:08 PM, jpe828 said:

You are way too slow there... I tend to agree that with the flight model right now you kind of drive the airplane on. If you flare any airplane in the sim it floats and floats..

 

From what Ive seem of real life CJ4 videos the real thing can float easily too. Throttling back fairly early and only a minimal flare, just to arrest the decent, seems to be the way its done.

Edited May 5, 20215 yr by martin-w

1 hour ago, martin-w said:

 

 

 

I think you guys that are comparing a passenger airliner to a military F16 are barking up the wrong tree. 🐕

Ignore angle of attack. I don't know any airliner pilot that obsesses about angle of attack. Nice indication to have, but concentrate on airspeed, flaps, etc. 

You quoting me from before the HF but nvm........

10 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

You quoting me from before the HF but nvm........

 

I've no idea what that means. 😉

Just now, martin-w said:

 

I've no idea what that means. 😉

Clearly.........