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Extra 300 bounces on landing rollout

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Hi,

When I land my default Extra 300 sport plane taildragger during rollout it starts bouncing, and does not stop bouncing until A/C is completely stopped?

Any idea how to fix?

Bill Clark

Windows 10 Pro, Ver 21H2

CPU I5-8600K 5.0GHz, GPU Nvidia RTX 3090 VRAM 24GB

Gigabyte Z370 Gaming 7, 2TB M2.NVMe, RAM 32GB

Stop pumping the stick?  😜

But seriously, have you tried it at a different airport to rule out a scenery surface problem?

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
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, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

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Hi Bob,

I went to a P3D V5.1 default airport, Miramar Marine Corps Air Station and experienced the same problem.

No, I am not pumping the stick at all, once I land and firmly on the ground, I let go of the stick and watch the plane bounce until it comes to a stop.

Bill

Windows 10 Pro, Ver 21H2

CPU I5-8600K 5.0GHz, GPU Nvidia RTX 3090 VRAM 24GB

Gigabyte Z370 Gaming 7, 2TB M2.NVMe, RAM 32GB

How many times have you flown it Bill? These highly sensitive planes need...sensitivity.

The World is divided into two groups. Those who say "Give me a link" and those that provide the link. WWG1WGA

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Ron & Bob,

The Extra 300 is my go to aircraft when testing out newly added scenery, sightseeing, or just having fun buzzing around low at 3rd party airports, etc. I like the visibility.

As to my experience flying taildraggers, I have logged around 100 hours flying Pilot In Command in real world Piper Cubs, and of that time, I have about 30 hours in a J3 Cub, which is flown from the rear seat with no passengers. If your passenger is tall, visibility is very limited. Many times I set down on short field dirt strips with a passenger in the front seat with no problems.

So I was very comfortable making either either 3-point stalls, or what we called in the day, "wheels landing," in the Cub where you would touch down on the main gear first, bleed off speed until the tail dropped to the ground. I experienced a lot of crosswind landings where I flew in he state of New Mexico in my early days........there is a lot of wind at the White Sands Test Grounds when I belonged to a Military flying club.

So, when I perform a 3 point, fully stalled landing in P3D, really close to the runway in the Extra 300, keeping the stick fully back, it bounces like a pogo stick, and does not stop bouncing until rolling to a stop. I just know it is not related to my simulator skills, or lack thereof, but some other issue. BTW, I don't experience this issue when I fly the Extra 300 in the new Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020.

Any thoughts? 

Bill Clark  

Windows 10 Pro, Ver 21H2

CPU I5-8600K 5.0GHz, GPU Nvidia RTX 3090 VRAM 24GB

Gigabyte Z370 Gaming 7, 2TB M2.NVMe, RAM 32GB

My only guess is that maybe there's a boo-boo in the contact points section of the aircraft.cfg file.  I've seen add-on planes do that in other ESP sims, related to the static/max strut compression and wheel hieght params I think it was.

But I think it very odd that a default plane would do it, which makes we wonder if it isn't something else at play.  What other add-ons are in use?  Anything that manipulates acft weight or steering?

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

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