5 hours ago, MarkDH said:

That's my favourite part 😃

Oh well, it's your £2K, so you'll get what you deserve.

Mark,

Do you often anger this easily?

Now now everyone. Calm down. I should change me signature as I'm back to work at present, hence being away from here over a week. 5 crappy earlies including a Tenerife the other day into the usual windshear.

An interesting point off topic but informative if you fly the PMDG 737NG, Calm winds, too cloudy to see the Volcano, but we input the lat and long of the top corner of the ash cloud and made a fix of it on the ND. For PMDG users, go on the CDU, INIT REF> INDEX>NAV DATA> then top left make up something for a waypoint, it will then offer you the lat and long boxes. In our case N2920.0 W01649.0 and accept. Then on the fix page add that made up point and it will appear. On the lines below add a radial and / after and it will show dotted green lines extending from the fix. You can then put the two sides of the Ash cloud warning box on the screen to see if you're going too near it. 

We passed 15,000ft over the top of the corner so no problem. Calm winds till 100ft then a 25kt headwind was fun though.

 

I digress.

 

The 737 has a firmish control and trims back to more or less the central position. It firms up at speed and under positive G loading using the two small pitot on the tail fin driving through the Pitch and Feel Computer. 

The CLS Brunner software mimics this feel when setup correctly. In essence you run the Brunner software in the background and that determines how the yoke responds to the Microsoft ESP output figures. The underlying simulator code is more than just for a home simulator anyway. Natively, it will drive the Sidewinder joystick from Windows and the Simulator code but converting the signals that drove that into what you need is via the plugin and Brunner CLS software. 

I will be starting to machine the parts in the coming weeks to begin building my rig. I'm working on and off this Winter as the pay reduction has bitten a bit and I can't afford my usual full Winter off this year.

Play kindly folks. You can have plenty of fun with just a Saitek yoke and the new Thrustmaster one looks interesting as well. 

Hi Mark, are you using the cheaper CLS-E NG or the more expensive CLS-E Mk II?

I can afford it but I'm not sure which one is better value, and I heard that the Brunner software's aircraft profiles are not interchangeable between the NG and the Mk II. I'm also concerned about the lack of MSFS support so far.

I was a GA pilot IRL, but I fly airliners 99.9% of the time on P3D, XP11 and MSFS, and looking to upgrade from my current PFC 737 yoke.

 

 

I have the CLS-E Mk2. I also have the CLS-E pedals. They're mounted in my rig, but I'm just about to start a lot of machining work to build up my new rig and hope to have it working this Winter then I'll play. Motion Rig and with control loaded controls it needs to be stiff, something the DofReality Motion Rig upper part unfortunately isn't.