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1) Turn off bloom and the evil autogen - the latter if you want to fly anything more demanding of fps than the ultralight, beaver, cessna, and various simple GA add ons. In other words, turn it off. Water 2x low or 1x low if you prefer the darker color. 1m textures and max global, scenery complexity dense +, high resolution, AA and Aniso (if you have the card for it). High traffic. High weather. Smooth smooth fps 27-40. 2) Get Cloud9 Xclass or FSGenesis landclass3) Get Activesky!4) Get FSGenesis North America Terrain Mesh!5) Fly in British Columbia, Alaska. Winter looks great.More Optional:6) Get Mytraffic or Traffic7) Get some aircraft8) Get Megascenery Hawaii9) Get Horizons Gen X or Just Flight Real Scenery (Get another Hard Drive)10) Wait a while for things to improve

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Agree re 7!I have my Aerosim Jetliner Classics 2 loade, just bought the Abacus/Contact Sales 787, got JF A340-500 on order and am sorely tempted by the MD11 I have seen mentioned.I'm also tempted to see if I can get the CS/JF 707 Pro working in FSX.With other than default aircraft it is turning into a not unpleasant experience and TBH when I'm working on a step climb in a L1011 I'm not that bothered if I can't see every leaf on every tree.

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> 1) Turn off bloom and the evil autogen - the latter if you want to fly anything more demanding of fps than the ultralight, beaver, cessna, and various simple GA add ons. In other words, turn it off. Water 2x low or 1x low if you prefer the darker color. 1m textures and max global, scenery complexity dense +, high resolution, AA and Aniso (if you have the card for it). High traffic. High weather. Smooth smooth fps 27-40. > 8) Get Megascenery Hawaii> 9) Get Horizons Gen X or Just Flight Real Scenery> (Get another Hard Drive)> 10) Wait a while for things to improve Have been doing the above for the past few months. Just loving 9) and more recently 8). As you say, the frame rates are great, 25

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"evil autogen"? I like it! Yet I respect those who prefer baren lands and ghost towns.dito

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Or let FSX set your settings and work from there.

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> Yet I respect those who prefer baren lands and ghost towns.On the contrary, my dear fellow, flying over photoscenery is a rich & rewarding experience, and as close as you can get to the real thing. And there is no need for autogen. Why not treat yourself to some of these scenery pleasures. Because, you

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Those are some good ways to enjoy FSX, or do what I like to do, set water to full, autogen to sparse, turn texture resolution up.Use object placer to place some custom objects, load up some quality WWII warbirds, turn on AS6.5 and fly around the pacific island hopping WOOOHHOOO!Can't wait till I have the hardware to max autogenRegards, MichaelKDFWNot anti FS9, just pro FSX!

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Hey Captain,I agree, but never have done #3:"3) Get Activesky!"Version 6.5 for FSX doesn't support ActiveSky Graphics or Radar. I have been curious if it greatly enhances FSX without the ASG. Also when there is a fully compatible FSX release would that be a free upgrade if one purchased 6.5Regards,Wes

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Sparse autogen is not worth the fps hit normally, but if you are island hopping like above and want waves it is. Island flying in general means higher fps. Shockwave Productions is the greatest and best bang for your buck. Fantastic warbirds. The object placer is a great tool indeed!Yes Activesky WX Engine is a big improvement over fsx's default real world weather. Just much more complex and realistic looking. Not sure about the free update, though.

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>On the contrary, my dear fellow, flying over photoscenery is a>rich & rewarding experience, and as close as you can get to>the real thing. And there is no need for autogen. Photoscenery can look much, much better with autogen. Do you know the autogen-demo by Horizon? That looks absolutely wonderful and is surprisingly FPS-friendly. Flying low and slow photo scenery can look quite flat.As a GA Pilot (not in real life) who usually lands on small fields, I don't need traffic except some cars and boats.Sometimes I like to fly with heavy clouds and some precipitation. Usually I have to do this without any autogen. My CPU is an AMD 3800+ single core.

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>"evil autogen"? I like it! Yet I respect those who prefer>baren lands and ghost towns.>>ditoIs it 'AutoEvil' or EvilGen'? lol

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The autogen hit when flying with photoscenery is less because there is no need for many vector objects (e.g. roads). Also the programming is different, from what I understand, since it's custom. The Horizons demo runs significantly better than regular autogen. In Megascenery there is less autogen density to begin with.

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>> Yet I respect those who prefer baren lands and ghost>towns.>>>On the contrary, my dear fellow, flying over photoscenery is a>rich & rewarding experience, and as close as you can get to>the real thing. And there is no need for autogen. >>Why not treat yourself to some of these scenery pleasures. >>Because, you

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Yes, agreed, I have the Horizon Gen-X scenery with the autogen demo. It is great for flying at low altitudes (below say 500 ft).It is amazing how well it blends in with the photoscenery, and is all accurately placed. I enjoy skimming over the tree tops in the Bell helicopter. And to think that they will later release autogen for the entire England & Wales.However I am still a photoscenery purist, and somehow still prefer autogen off most of the time. I like to see the real original things below, and enjoy scanning the landscape and trying to make out what I am seeing, (just as I do in real plane). (Tractors in fields, bails of hay, cows, cars, pylons, circus tents, beaches with parked cars, schools with cricket fields, tennis courts, quarry's, abandoned airfields, factories, castles, etc) Also keep my traffic fairly low. And always love having some low cloud around.

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May I ask which scenery it was, and how long ago?

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Good topic this,it shows that FSX can be fun despite some performance issues that are constantly complained about.I can say that I am anjoying FSX more for its time in the marketplace than I did FS9 at the same time and my frame rate is higher. Onto the real story. Two days ago I took my much loved SF260 on a night flight from New Orleans to Jackson. I flew at 7,000' and the moon was rising in the front of the cockpit on the right side. As I flew the moon was reflecting of the rippling lake and river surfaces and then disapearing behind cloud filaments only to re-appear a few minutes later. The whole flight was relaxing and very enjoyable. Afterwards I had a long and hard think and then proceeded to my Control panel/Add remove programs and hit the FS2004 button. Enough said.John

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Hi Wes,Not free because the FSX version is a totally new program. But in the past we have always offered a discount for owners of the latest version.No time-line has been set for a release. The words "soon" or "later" are too vague and I will not use them. Release will not be in the next few weeks.Weather is enhanced within the limitations of FSX and what we had to work with in AS6.Thanks,Jimhttp://www.hifisim.com/Active Sky V6 Development Team Active Sky V6 Proud SupporterHiFi Beta TeamRadar Contact Supporter: http://www.jdtllc.com/AirSource Member: http://www.air-source.us/FSEconomy Member:http://www.fseconomy.com/

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I wonder if some intrepid soul could do the cost totals for that setup (I'd guess several hundred bucks for all those addons.)For meself, since I fly with the prop on top mostly, I need the "evil autogen." It's just not the same if I can't occasionally chop off the limbs of a nearby tree.

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Me too. Photoreal only without autogen looks too much like a flat photo as you get near the ground. I like a bit of 3D in my takeoffs and landings!Gary

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It's not as expensive as you think for the first five. $25 for the terrain mesh. $10 for each Xclass (must have) 30 for the whole world. Activesky, which is more of a luxury though recommended, is a bit costly at 29 euros. Megascenery Hawaii is only $15.Gen X or Real scenery is 40-50 a volume, but in very large areas.The Carenados are cheap and work in fsx. Aerosoft is slated to have reasonable prices. But I won't pretend a simulator is not a big investment for most of us.Also, autogen doesn't look that real. Having high scenery complexity offers nice landings; and you can spruce up specific airports with the object placement tool. The point is if you want to run anything complex and have fluid flight, you have to sacrifice the autogen. Don't listen to people who tell you the human eye can't detect anything above 26 + frames. It most certainly can.

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>. And there is no need for autogen....I use the superb Horizon VFR photoscenery. The 1.2m textures are still well-defined when flying at treetop level. Ironically, the high resolution textures makes autogen more essential. That's because images of buildings at low level are still sharp. Unfortunately, they look bizarre as if they have been flattened by a huge steamroller. Well-placed autogen buildings and trees, as in the Horizon autogen demo, cover up these anomalies rather well. And, anyway, the world is three dimensional. Even with perfect textures, from low level the world is still, well, flat.Best regards, Chris

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> Ironically, the high resolution textures makes autogen more essential. That's because images of buildings at low level are still sharp. Unfortunately, they look bizarre as if they have been flattened by a huge steamroller.I agree, but this is only in the big cities like London, where tall buildings do look like flat pancakes. Fortunately, the default FSX buildings populate this area well, and luckily they are on the Scenery Complexity slider (and not the autogen slider).However in the smaller towns and villages and farmlands, the buildings look perfect as they are (flying at say 900 ft and higher). > And, anyway, the world is three dimensional.From these higher altitudes, the trees and houses etc are no longer 3D anyway. See for yourself next time you fly in real life, or even if you view some trees & buildings on a distant hillside. They simply do not

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Funny you mentioned that flight. I live outside of Jackson and take that trip in FSX often. I like setting the time to about 45 minutes before sunset, jump in a F16 and follow the Mississippi river down to New Orleans, watching the sun set out te side window. By the time I get to New Orleans head west and chase the sun. Very cool graphics FSX.Wes

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Hey Jim,I couldn't resist the temptation, especially after reading this enjoyable and positive thread, and purchased your product yesterday. I know I have read that with Active Sky 6.5 that the clouds are FSX. After installing it yesterday I flew out of Jackson (where it was hazy in real life) and just never had noticed the haze effects at different altitudes in FSX so much before installing AS.Thanks,Wes

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>> >>Only if you are flying over London or Holland. :-)>Fortunately, with a terrain mesh down to 5m, I find that most>of Northern & Western England and most of Wales is full of>rolling hills and dips and valleys. When even raised motorway>embankments can be seen, you are getting more than enough 3D>in the terrain, which is essential to compliment the>photoscenery.>>>regards>>>David>Interesting and very accurate observation! However even flying FSX default out the box, no additional terrain or textures, the results are very impressive. Mesh set to 10m, can't remember textures and autogen on sparse. Making a circular approach last night to Cardiff International which MS ATC routed me across the Valleys then out over Bridgend towards the sea at an altitude of @3000 feet. To say my jaw hit the floor is an understatement, the contour relief is just amazing. Event with scant autogen the town I flew over (may have been Pontypridd, not sure) had plenty of buildings. Not sure what frame rate was but things seemed quite smooth, though my PC PSU seemed to be struggling as the LED's dropped out on the Saitek X52 a few times (see my thread in the Hardware forum - replacement 580 watt PSU on order!).With a few more 3rd party aircraft, FSX is now becoming quite a pleasant place to be.

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