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Saitek rudder brake pedals

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Hi

As a relative newbie to AAO I have been able to set up most of my controls instead of the stock and/or  FSUIPC assignments.

Whilst  the Saitek rudder axis works as expected I have been unable to get the right and left toe brakes to work (default aircraft and others)

Whilst I can assign a brake axis to AAO this has no effect on the Sim.

The 'cursor'  will move R and L on the 'Assigned Axis' page, on pressing the pedal, it has no effect on the actual aircraft brakes.

I have tried assignments under 'Select Simulator Axis' or 'Select Simulator Event' "AXIS_RIGHT_BRAKE_SET" etc. to no effect.

I have ensured that there are no duplicated assignments.

Any suggestions welcome.

Thanks

Al

 

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3 hours ago, algy10 said:

Any suggestions welcome.

I assume that you are using the DEMO version of AAO?

Could be a range issue - what simulator is this? Can you see the black bar travel all the way?

Did you try reversing the axis? Pulling the center triangle all the way to the left or right?

Edited by Lorby_SI

LORBY-SI

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Hi Oliver.

No, I am using the full version. (2.20 b32 MSFS)

Simulator is MSFS 2020, SU6

I am seeing full travel on the black bar.

Checked that the handbrake is off.

I have tried reversing the axis.

Thanks again

Al

Following with great interest as I had the same experience. MSFS. SU6, CJ4 .

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1 hour ago, Adrian123 said:

Following with great interest as I had the same experience. MSFS. SU6, CJ4 .

AXIS_LEFT_BRAKE_SET and AXIS_RIGHT_BRAKE_SET work fine for me in the CJ4. (MFG Crosswind pedals, but that shouldn't matter)

Edited by Lorby_SI

LORBY-SI

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4 hours ago, algy10 said:

(default aircraft and others)

Can you please name just one concrete example? So I can verify on my end? I have a different set of pedals, but that shouldn't matter. No Saitek software or drivers running in the background?

LORBY-SI

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1 hour ago, algy10 said:

No, I am using the full version. (2.20 b32 MSFS)

Why didn't you try it with the DEMO first? The bold notice on the product description in the shop is there for a reason...to prevent you from buying an app that doesn't want to work for you.

Only option you have is probably the assignment in the sim itself. Although this doesn't make any sense. And I have no idea whatsoever why this is happening on your computer. Can you assign the toe brakes to an/any other axis, just out of curiosity? Because if that doesn't work either, then it must be an interference of some kind (another addon, mod etc.)

Edited by Lorby_SI

LORBY-SI

10 minutes ago, Lorby_SI said:

Why didn't you try it with the DEMO first? The bold notice on the product description in the shop is there for a reason...to prevent you from buying an app that doesn't want to work for you.

Are we having a bad day? Check back on a gooder day. 🙂

 

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5 minutes ago, Adrian123 said:

Are we having a bad day?

Why? Using the DEMO version first is very important, to prevent grief later. With the myriad of hardware combinations out there it is really the only way to be sure that things work for you. 

The product description in the shop also says that you won't receive any support if you don't use the DEMO first. Since I am trying to provide support anyway, I can't see why this day is particularly worse than others...

Edited by Lorby_SI

LORBY-SI

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Hi Oliver

I am more than happy with AAO.:biggrin: and I certainly don't regret purchasing your software.

This is merely an observation, rather than a complaint.

If the worst comes to the worst I can always assign the brake pedals to the default MSFS (at the moment), or FSUIPC, although I am trying to move away from the latter.

If someone could come up with a solution that would be fine, however it is not the end of the world.

Thanks again

Al

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21 minutes ago, algy10 said:

If someone could come up with a solution that would be fine, however it is not the end of the world.

Please try a different joystick axis for the brakes, one that is already working for something else (rudder, alieron, etc.) Just to make sure that it really is the pedals hardware and not something in the sim (= if the brakes don't work with any axis, then something else must be wrong). There aren't that many options for external controls, and if it works with FSUIPC there is no reason why it shouldn't work with AAO.

You could also try using scripts with the axis variable as input for the "(A:BRAKE LEFT POSITION, Position)" simvar (value goes from 0.0 to 1.0 or from 0 to 32766, not sure). But you can't configure that in the current retail version, it has an unfortunate bug in this particular feature (= assigning an axis to a script). If you want to try this, please consider sending an email to the address on the last page of the manual with your proof of purchase. The axis/script issue has been fixed in the current development version.

Edited by Lorby_SI

LORBY-SI

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Hi Oliver

Setup, standard MS Cessna 172.

In AAO tried setting e.g right brake to prop axis.

Same effect, black slider, full movement on 'assigned axis' but no braking effect.

Also tried assigning unused throttle  axis on Thrustmaster T16000 joystick.  Same result.

Please don't loose any sleep over this as standard MS brake axis or FSUIPC still working.

Thanks

Al

 

 

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, algy10 said:

Same result.

OK, but what that means is, that something is blocking AAO from doing its job. To my best knowledge FSUIPC overrides other controllers, but I didn't want to do that in AAO.

I know you already did this  but please check again that nothing else can override the brake events. And make sure that no other app is running that potentially does the same thing (=like FSUIPC or a ground friction mod). You could also play with AxisMax and AxisMin to see if that changes anything ( -16K - 0 - 16K, 0 - 32K)

Edited by Lorby_SI

LORBY-SI

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Hi

I can appreciate that you will find it hard to reproduce the same effect given the huge variety of hardware and software available, as you say.

I think that I will just give it a rest for the evening and have another investigation in the morning.

One thing that I I did notice is that there is little or no animation on the rudder pedal brakes, however they still work ok when correctly set up.

Maybe a SU6 thing.

Another thing that I might try is removing everything in the Community folder, however, that will have to wait till tomorrow.

Thanks

Al

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18 hours ago, algy10 said:

I can appreciate that you will find it hard to reproduce the same effect given the huge variety of hardware and software available, as you say.

Well, that's just the thing - it doesn't seem to be hardware related. You cannot brake with any controller, while I can brake with every controller. Something doesn't add up, and the most probable explanation would be interference from "something else".

LORBY-SI

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