...can't process a run of MSFS  (or), can't process a successful update of any kind for MSFS...

You might have a mild, or quite serious W10 or 11 file system corruption.

There is much that you can do yourself, and not NEED to have to completely reinstall W10 or 11,  and the instructions are very easy...to do the following:

 None of these commands will BORK your system, they only will fix it...or will tell you that they can NOT do the command repair, and why....

 

I run through the following command sequence every 30 days, and yes, I have found a number of times, that the step 2) sfc /scannow had indeed found corrupted system files and downloaded uncorrupted from the Net (M.S. Site) and overwrote the corrupted files, thereby bringng me to a clean and healthy W10 Pro installation. Let me remind the reader again...that I still could drop to my Desk Top with whatever corrupted files I had, but that does NOT mean that any other program (for instance, MSFS) that will need to use any of those W10 or W11 files, will NOT FAIL, as a result OF THAT CORRUPTED  file...  That might be why some are coming onto the forum, to say that THEY could not update, THEY are crashing,  they...they...and it NOT BE anything truly to do, with MSFS or any other program, game or logistical, they run. 

I suggest you follow the step 2 to step 6 on the first of each month.  Yes. there will be some (I have already had this happen to my  previous thread regarding this information, that they will say that you don't need to do this.  Of course...you don't need to do ANYTHING at any time...nobody is twisting your arm. I SUGGEST that as part of your computer usage, and computer 'maintenance' you take the15 minutes or so each month to FIND OUT, if you are running with corrupted system files from start up, and mostly SHUT DOWN sequences per day/week/month.  Making the following a monthly maintenance routine, will greatly divert any or a growing corrupted system file FUBAR, until the point that the collection of corrupted files become fatal, and you can not boot to Desktop, or you can NOT run a program, or update the program. where others have had no problems in doing so.   

FYI.

Ses

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To open up the proper COMMAND window,  at the bottom left SEARCH mask, type COMMAND, and then when it comes up, right click run COMMAND as ADMINISTRATOR.  The black window will come up, and you are all set to type the following 2 to 6 sequence.

1) Open administrative command prompt and type, in sequencially from step 2 to step 6.
2) sfc /scannow
3) dism /online /cleanup-image /scanhealth
4) dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth
5) sfc /scannow
6) chkdsk /scan

For most mildly corrupted to mid corrupted W10 or 11 files systems, the above system diagnosis and System File repair commands, should be all that you need to run from step 2 to step 6....BUT...the following is more in-depth and can have you up and running without the need of a complete install.   None of these commands will BORK your system, they only will fix it...or will tell you that they can NOT do the command repair, and why....

The following set of instructions are for a quite serious and FUBAR'ed system EVEN THOUGH, you can run to Desk TOP,   That does NOT mean that your system is in good health,  not at all, it only means that your system has not corrupted to the point that W10 or 11 will not load in to the Desk Top at all..., so the following set of system maintenance commands can be tried:

If DISM does not work...scans quit with error codes, try the following commands:

Open Command Prompt as administrator.
When Command Prompt opens, enter Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup and press Enter.
DISM failed to load the provider, to unload offline registry
Wait for the process to finish
In addition, you can also run the following commands:

DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /AnalyzeComponentStore
After running these commands try to perform DISM scan again. A couple of users reported that running the following commands fixed the problem:

Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup
Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup /ResetBase
 

Edited October 30, 20214 yr by Sesquashtoo

If an admin thinks this might be helpful,  perhaps they could pin it. Thanks.

Edited October 30, 20214 yr by Sesquashtoo

Most users should NEVER have to run DISM let alone once a month.   You state others objected to your information so you created another post then bumped it yourself after a few minutes then suggested it gets pinned yet it is not accurate which is "probably" why people objected last time.  

Provided a CheckDisk and System File Checker report no errors there is no reason what-so-ever to run DISM every 30 days.  I'd also recommend a /verifyonly command and I believe your DISM command should be Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth before you do a cleanup_image.

You should also be rebooting after DISM and prior to your final /SFC if that's what you do but to run DISM every 30 days is not advised by anyone including MS.  It's a last resort troubleshooting tool to be used in ChkDsk and /SFC don't work.  It is NOT a monthly system cleanup tool.  DISM is designed to fix the image component store sxs not the system itself.   I have NEVER had to run it in all my years of computing and that includes managing thousands of "images" for IBM!!!  Never touched DISM in all my years as an admin so why would I recommend a "user" run it every 30 days with no knowledge what-so-ever of what they are doing.   Can you succinctly explain DISM or are you just recommending it every 30 days randomly? 

Once SFC has finished scanning, you’ll see one of three messages:

• Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations. This means that whatever’s causing your PC problems isn’t related to a system file.
•  Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files and successfully repaired them. This should hopefully mean that your problems have been solved.
• Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files but was unable to fix some of them. This means that system files are to blame, but SFC can’t replace them. Try running the tool again in Safe Mode. If you still get the same result, don’t despair: it’s time to use DISM.

Edited October 30, 20214 yr by psolk

29 minutes ago, psolk said:

Most users should NEVER have to run DISM let alone once a month.   You state others objected to your information so you created another post then bumped it yourself after a few minutes then suggested it gets pinned yet it is not accurate which is "probably" why people objected last time.  

Provided a CheckDisk and System File Checker report no errors there is no reason what-so-ever to run DISM every 30 days.  I'd also recommend a /verifyonly command and I believe your DISM command should be Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth before you do a cleanup_image.

You should also be rebooting after DISM and prior to your final /SFC if that's what you do but to run DISM every 30 days is not advised by anyone including MS.  It's a last resort troubleshooting tool to be used in ChkDsk and /SFC don't work.  It is NOT a monthly system cleanup tool.  DISM is designed to fix the image component store sxs not the system itself.   I have NEVER had to run it in all my years of computing and that includes managing thousands of "images" for IBM!!!  Never touched DISM in all my years as an admin so why would I recommend a "user" run it every 30 days with no knowledge what-so-ever of what they are doing.   Can you succinctly explain DISM or are you just recommending it every 30 days randomly? 

Once SFC has finished scanning, you’ll see one of three messages:

• Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations. This means that whatever’s causing your PC problems isn’t related to a system file.
•  Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files and successfully repaired them. This should hopefully mean that your problems have been solved.
• Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files but was unable to fix some of them. This means that system files are to blame, but SFC can’t replace them. Try running the tool again in Safe Mode. If you still get the same result, don’t despair: it’s time to use DISM.

Yep..right on time...lol.  And...in reply to your feelings on this subject, there is no reason NOT TO....at all.   You have your opinion, and I have mine...the reader with have theirs...and if a forum member that has tried on his own to fix a non functioning or non being able to update, and tries my suggestion, and afterword's, has a successful launch or update, than, sorry, you are wrong.  You do what you want...but others will do what they want, and not be influenced by a what another would do, or not do.  I suggested they try, and if nothing...no harm done. If it corrects their woes, then EVERYTHING is to their gain.   You have never done this? Fine...nobody is twisting your arm. But leave others to form their own conclusions, without being influenced to not even try....   Yep, right on time... psolk,.   nobody's an expert. Neither me, or you.   Nobody's experience will be the same, for you, for me, or for another.   Let other's decide,  for themselves, without influence.  I put the information out there...what I do...and I suggested they do...and oh, I don't call anybody's postings...or feelings on any subject or topic, "GARBAGE" as I have seen you tag another topic.   Is only your opinions, not garbage, Psolk?   It makes me wonder...  It does...   I would read another's opinions...but would not reply that their opinion is worthless or garbage.  Who am I to come onto a forum and do that?  Not me....not me...

Edited October 30, 20214 yr by Sesquashtoo

18 minutes ago, Sesquashtoo said:

Yep..right on time...lol.  And...in reply to your feelings on this subject, there is no reason NOT TO....at all.   You have your opinion, and I have mine...the reader with have theirs...

Yep, that's the great thing about opinions.  Facts however are different.  Can you please point me to the MS documentation that recommends end users execute DISM as part of their routine monthly system maintenance? Can you point to any non-opinion based documentation to support your recommendations? I'm talking official recommendations here, from any reliable source recommending what you posted above. 

Please post your sources so users CAN make educated decisions.   

Hmm, must have missed where I called your opinion garbage.  Wow, you really don't like being challenged huh?  Yes, you put the information out there, I am questioning it and asking for facts and you are going after how I behave on the forums?  OK... 

Edited October 30, 20214 yr by psolk

1 minute ago, psolk said:

Yep, that's the great thing about opinions.  Facts however are different.  Can you please point me to the MS documentation that recommends end users execute DISM as part of their routine monthly system maintenance? Can you point to any non-opinion based documentation to support your recommendations? I'm talking official recommendations here, from any reliable source recommending what you posted above. 

Please post your sources so users CAN make educated decisions.   

My suggestion was based on my actual usage, and the total beneficial effects that a monthly run of those command prompts has afforded me.  I did not post from an 'expert' viewpoint...or that M.S. suggests this. I am posting as a private user, who DOES do this...and DOES see never, a crashed system,  or unable to run or update any of my software.   I have seen as early as two weeks ago, that some of my files had been corrupted (I assume by a spike in the mains, as I shut down) but I do not have to suggest or NOT suggest anything that M.S. suggests, or not suggests.  Nobody runs their cars, their whatever only...'by the book'. Nobody...well, perhaps you maybe.  I don't NEED to prove anything. I only posted what some might want to try...and don't place judgement on any of it.  Oh..and what about those files that were corrupted:  sfc /scanow found them...and repaired them.  End of story.  I don't need to prove anything to you, or to anybody else, to post.  I report what I have done..and whether it was beneficial to do so.... Do (as you will) what you want, or to not do.  I'll do the same...

 

1 minute ago, Sesquashtoo said:

My suggestion was based on my actual usage, and the total beneficial effects that a monthly run of those command prompts has afforded me.  I did not post from an 'expert' viewpoint...or that M.S. suggests this. I am posting as a private user, who DOES do this...and DOES see never, a crashed system,  or unable to run or update any of my software.   I have seen as early as two weeks ago, that some of my files had been corrupted (I assume by a spike in the mains, as I shut down) but I do not have to suggest or NOT suggest anything that M.S. suggests, or not suggests.  Nobody runs their cars, their whatever only...'by the book'. Nobody...well, perhaps you maybe.  I don't NEED to prove anything. I only posted what some might want to try...and don't place judgement on any of it.  Oh..and what about those files that were corrupted:  sfc /scanow found them...and repaired them.  End of story.  I don't need to prove anything to you, or to anybody else, to post.  I report what I have done..and whether it was beneficial to do so.... Do (as you will) what you want, or to not do.  I'll do the same...

 

You are getting so bent out of shape by being challenged over your DISM recommendation.  You posted that you had already posted this and people challenged you so you posted it again and asked for it to be bumped and pinned.  I am trying to verify the information is factual before others blindly follow it.

Your information is highly useful, I am merely suggesting people use the tools as they were intended and not use things like DISM monthly with no clue why.  Sorry that gets you "so upset" you need to challenge me personally.

Yes, to your point SFC found them, hence no reason to run a DISM and repair the components of sxs   Yes, there are actually experts in this who maintained thousands of images for some of the largest companies in the world without ever executing a DISM command with no good reason as part of a monthly maintenance window. 

13 minutes ago, psolk said:

Yep, that's the great thing about opinions.  Facts however are different.  Can you please point me to the MS documentation that recommends end users execute DISM as part of their routine monthly system maintenance? Can you point to any non-opinion based documentation to support your recommendations? I'm talking official recommendations here, from any reliable source recommending what you posted above. 

Please post your sources so users CAN make educated decisions.   

Hmm, must have missed where I called your opinion garbage.  Wow, you really don't like being challenged huh?  Yes, you put the information out there, I am questioning it and asking for facts and you are going after how I behave on the forums?  OK... 

One can challenge, but c'mon...to say that you would not do something is one thing...to say that OTHERS (because of the opinion you hold) should NOT do something is totally different.  Maybe you can't see that?  That would explain it. and in reference to GARBAGE?  Just go to where I pondered if MSFS was released a year too early..and what was the FIRST 'word out of your fingertips?  "Garbage'...and then you went on.  I do remember what I post in other's threads...so can recall what you posted by mere memory, and that is NOT being challenged. That is just being...well, I'll leave off with that...

I

7 minutes ago, psolk said:

You are getting so bent out of shape by being challenged over your DISM recommendation.  You posted that you had already posted this and people challenged you so you posted it again and asked for it to be bumped and pinned.  I am trying to verify the information is factual before others blindly follow it.

Your information is highly useful, I am merely suggesting people use the tools as they were intended and not use things like DISM monthly with no clue why.  Sorry that gets you "so upset" you need to challenge me personally.

Yes, to your point SFC found them, hence no reason to run a DISM and repair the components of sxs   Yes, there are actually experts in this who maintained thousands of images for some of the largest companies in the world without ever executing a DISM command with no good reason as part of a monthly maintenance window. 

Psolk..I am not getting bent...but I strongly believe that one should be careful to not come across as the 'superior' opinion.  I certainly never come across as that...I give an opinion, but never with I would never do that. I would never...blah, blah.  Why influence somebody else?  Let THEM choose on their own merit, whether to do something, follow a suggestion, or not...whatever...let them read, listen, watch a youtube..and make their OWN valuation. The use of DISM command will verify to the user by the COMMAND report what was found..or that their system has no issues. That is a very GOOD THING.  So the user knows what the condition of his/her her/his system is. Running a DISM command does NO HARM...alters nothing...but will repair, if an issue is found!   We are two different 'forum' personalities, to be sure.

Ok...back to flying...

Edited October 30, 20214 yr by Sesquashtoo

1 minute ago, Sesquashtoo said:

One can challenge, but c'mon...to say that you would not do something is one thing...to say that OTHERS (because of the opinion you hold) should NOT do something is totally different.  Maybe you can't see that?  That would explain it. and in reference to GARBAGE?  Just go to where I pondered if MSFS was released a year too early..and what was the FIRST 'word out of your fingertips?  "Garbage'...and then you went on.  I do remember what I post in other's threads...so can recall what you posted by mere memory, and that is NOT being challenged. That is just being...well, I'll leave off with that...

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If my posts and tone bother you that much you can always ignore me if you choose to do so.   My wife does it and it seems to solve lots of her issues with what I say LOL...

I don't see where anything I have said was disrespectful to you personally nor did it justify you somehow questioning my overall forum behavior. 

You posted pre-emptively this information had already been questioned and jumped on me personally when I questioned "the information" not the person presenting the information.  You were expecting this...

The 'sfc /scannow' is certainly useful, and I was shocked when it replaced a single 'corrupted' file a few months ago after an MSFS CTD.  I also ran 'chkdsk /scan' (it did it on next start up) and luckily it found nothing.

The problem I have (not directly related to MSFS but other apps) turns out to be a permission issue that I am having problems solving.  They can be a nightmare. 
It relates to the Windows/Temp folder and some programs freezing when they can't write to it due to not having permissions.  This did start after the CTD mentioned above and blue screen with MSFS after the original SU5 (luckily not having them now with the hotfixes etc.).

I am hoping the W11 upgrade (when I am scheduled) might solve it, but probably not as it retains all user permissions, so a fresh install might be the way (I don't relish that!). 
 

Edited October 30, 20214 yr by bobcat999

4 minutes ago, psolk said:

If my posts and tone bother you that much you can always ignore me if you choose to do so.   My wife does it and it seems to solve lots of her issues with what I say LOL...

I don't see where anything I have said was disrespectful to you personally nor did it justify you somehow questioning my overall forum behavior. 

You posted pre-emptively this information had already been questioned and jumped on me personally when I questioned "the information" not the person presenting the information.  You were expecting this...

Who is now somewhat 'sensitive'?   LOL.  Let's just end this...fly...shake hands...enjoy a beer...and let the user either run or not run any of the above.  How does that sound?  

BTW, Psolk I would never ignore you...I have ignored nobody...  Cheers!

Edited October 30, 20214 yr by Sesquashtoo

2 minutes ago, Sesquashtoo said:

Psolk..I am not getting bent...but I strongly believe that one should be careful to not come across as the 'superior' opinion.  I certainly never come across as that...I give an opinion, but never with I would never do that. I would never...blah, blah.  Why influence somebody else?  Let THEM choose on their own merit, whether to do something, follow a suggestion, or not...whatever...let them read, listen, watch a youtube..and make their OWN valuation.   We are two different 'forum' personalities, to be sure.

Ok...back to flying...

So you should influence them to follow your suggestions and lead but no one else should influence them to think alternatively or provide more background to help them make that decision?  Just blindly follow you without question? 

Sorry, if you put something "out there" then you should be prepared for others to question it and ask for the facts behind it, not opinion, facts, that is why I keep asking for them... Facts obfuscate the need for opinions in "most cases" 🙂 

This process is described in the following MS support pages:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/use-the-system-file-checker-tool-to-repair-missing-or-corrupted-system-files-79aa86cb-ca52-166a-92a3-966e85d4094e

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/using-system-file-checker-in-windows-365e0031-36b1-6031-f804-8fd86e0ef4ca

I can't find any recommendation for carrying it out at specific intervals, but rather in response to apparent system problems. I have no clue whether or how this might or might not actually fix MSFS issues.

1 minute ago, psolk said:

So you should influence them to follow your suggestions and lead but no one else should influence them to think alternatively or provide more background to help them make that decision?  Just blindly follow you without question? 

Sorry, if you put something "out there" then you should be prepared for others to question it and ask for the facts behind it, not opinion, facts, that is why I keep asking for them... Facts obfuscate the need for opinions in "most cases" 🙂 

My facts, were how it benefited me to do what 'I suggested' they try.  That is not blindly...that is, if you are up against the wall, you might wish to try this...blah, or blah.   Ok...now coffee and flying...