April 15, 20224 yr I have two computers with Win 10 (updated for free from Win 7 ). One with a PhenomX4 CPU and the other with a haswell 4770K which is my sim computer. I see that Win 10 will retire in 2025. What options are there after that ? My system does not support Win 11 so upgrading OS is not an option. I surely can not think if throwing out my haswell system in 2025. Also I see that Win 11 will retire two years earlier than Win 10. That is really strange. I was under the impression that there should never be any Win 11 (or Win 12) just continuous Win 10 updates
May 17, 20224 yr Win 10 won't turn into a pumpkin and stop working at it's official end-of-life--it just stops getting updates. I still have an old laptop on Win 7 here that's used for a couple task-specific purposes. Because it doesn't get security updates any more, I won't use it for online banking, e-mail, web surfing etc. Same goes with an old Win XP/Vista desktop that I ocasionally fire up to use a couple old pieces of hardware that never got 64-bit drivers and a couple old but still functional software titles. I think that 2023 Win 11 retirement date is for version 21H2--as I read it they release a feature update once per year, with a retirement date for that version 24 months later. So I'd expect Win 11 to retire 24 months after the final feature update is released, whenever that happens. It wouldn't make much sense for people to upgrade Win 10 to Win 11 only to have it orphaned two years earlier than Win 10 would have been. So your sim computer should be able to keep simming after Win 10 updates go dark, but you may want another PC for general use. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
May 17, 20224 yr I use mine as the second computer linked via FSUIPC and WIDEFS. Runs weather, charts, simbrief, Vatspy, checklists, etc, etc. Works great. Mark CYYZ
May 19, 20224 yr Author On 5/17/2022 at 8:56 PM, Bob Scott said: Win 10 won't turn into a pumpkin and stop working at it's official end-of-life--it just stops getting updates. I still have an old laptop on Win 7 here that's used for a couple task-specific purposes. Because it doesn't get security updates any more, I won't use it for online banking, e-mail, web surfing etc. Same goes with an old Win XP/Vista desktop that I ocasionally fire up to use a couple old pieces of hardware that never got 64-bit drivers and a couple old but still functional software titles. I think that 2023 Win 11 retirement date is for version 21H2--as I read it they release a feature update once per year, with a retirement date for that version 24 months later. So I'd expect Win 11 to retire 24 months after the final feature update is released, whenever that happens. It wouldn't make much sense for people to upgrade Win 10 to Win 11 only to have it orphaned two years earlier than Win 10 would have been. So your sim computer should be able to keep simming after Win 10 updates go dark, but you may want another PC for general use. The part with not using it for web surfing e-mail is tricky and a problem. I plan to upgrade my current Haswell system to a new sim game platform and then getting a new Windows license for it. The old haswell would be for other tasks like programming and access to the web and mail is necessary. Were that not rumors of Windows 12 coming fairly soon ?
May 19, 20224 yr Author On 5/17/2022 at 8:59 PM, MarkW said: I use mine as the second computer linked via FSUIPC and WIDEFS. Runs weather, charts, simbrief, Vatspy, checklists, etc, etc. Works great. Do you have two monitors on the desk ? I have no place for that
May 19, 20224 yr 27 minutes ago, jfri said: Do you have two monitors on the desk ? I have no place for that Yes two monitors. Mark CYYZ
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