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HiDoes anybody have any news for FSNavigator 5?I wish that this version comes out soon.Stelios

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Tired of waiting I bought FS Commander instead. The first impression wasn't the best, but after getting into it it turned out to fill the gap after FS Navigator! In fact there are things I even like better with it.Also I have FS Commander on a separate pc, connected through Wide FS. By placing both Active Sky and FS Commander on a separate pc I take some workload off the main pc, and besides it's incredibly convenient!So: if you have an old pc, laptop or Intel iMac, why not use it?Eagle

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I also use FSC8, no probs and no hurry to get FSNav when it comes out.

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It's a pity that we have no news or an announcement even from the developers to tell us when to expect FSNav 5. Stelios

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Most people appear to have pretty much giving up on FSNavigator and have made the switch to FSCommander. FSNavigator was developed by one individual, and you just can't keep up with the add-on developers by yourself like some single-person developers used to be able to do with earlier versions of Flight Simulator. The software is getting more complicated, and the man power needed to build quality add-on programs is growing. In the long run, this is better for us all, but not so good for the smaller add-on developers trying to keep up. Fully staffed add-on developers are popping up that will start dominating the add-on market for Flight Simulator.Maybe the next FSNavigator will be released in the future sometime, but it will no longer be the dominant flight planner for Flight Simulator in my opinion. FSCommander will more than likely be the most widely held and used flight planner for FSX. People are simply not going to sit around and wait for a flight planner that they have no information about when another good flight planner is available and constantly getting new features added to it. I think FSNavigator is only the first small-guy developer to bite the dust and plenty more will follow over the next several months.

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Hello All, Just out of the blue, has anyone taken the time to figure out why FSN won't work on FSX? I've wondered but not tried to install it.Best, Clay

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Could someone please post a few things that FSCommander does not do that FSNav used to do?I was a huge fan of FSN and now sorely miss it. Can FSC generate and export flight plans to FSX and most of a can you access FSC without leaving the sim (like the old F9 hotkey)?Cheers,Chris Porter:-outtaPerthWestern AustraliaIntel Core 2 Duo E6700ASUS P5N32-E SLI Deluxe Motherboard4GB Corsair VS DDR2 667Mhz RAMInno3D 8800 GTX 768MB GDDR3 590MHz VideoASUS MW221u 21" Wide Screen LCD2 x 320Gb WD SATA DrivesCreative X-Fi Platinum Sound Lian Li PC-B20B Aluminium Black CaseMS Vista Ultimate OEMCH FlightSim Yoke USBCH Pro Pedals USBTrackIR 4 Pro and Track ClipMSFS FSX Deluxe Edition Full install at 1400x960x32Check out my 5th Around the World flight with MS FSX at http://members.iinet.com.au/~portercbp/fly...W_05/index.html

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It looks good though complex but I only ever buy download products so I probably wont get it. When I want it I want it NOW! :-) That, and the only reason for not allowing download purchases is usually copy-protection which usually means having the CD in the drive. One of my pet hates! At the moment I still use FSBuild.

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Below is a quote from the FS Navsite, Fingers crossed."FSNavigator version 5 is being developed, and is expected to be available mid-2007." CheersPete

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ditto. much prefer it over FSNavigator. ==Marten:Weber==P-D920 oc3.64MHz 2GB RAM WinXP ATI X1900+1024MB 2xSATA250 2xVIEWSONIC 19"Best AI available today: www.world-of-ai.com

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These are the "Save as" options:FSC/FSRadar ContactSqualkboxOldSqualkboxNewPMDG 737PMDG 747IVAOLevelDIt is a separate program, not a module, so I don't know if it it runs while the sim is running. There is a setting somewhere in FSX where you can tell fs not to stop on task switch, but it has never worked for me in Vista. I think most people use FSC on a separate computer, which is extremely convenient. Do you have a laptop, old computer or intelMac at hand?Eagle

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"FSNavigator version 5 is being developed, and is expected to be available mid-2007." There you are...let's be patient for just a little longer. This guy deserves some loyalty from our community.Mike

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I am with you on the developer POV, he has done a tremendous job on the addictive Navigator.However, the default map is beyond stink, I simply do not fly at all whith this as the only option. FSX has been out for a looooong time, and I simply couldn't stretch my patience any longer. So I went out and looked for an alternative, and found one.This actually reminds me of my own professional situation. Right now I have two choices

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> FSX has been out for a>looooong time, and I simply couldn't stretch my patience any>longer. >>Eagle>:-lol I must just be getting old. Man, if the time that FSX has been out is a looooong time to you, you are way too much in a hurry. Take a trip to some islands or something. :-kewl

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I do take a trip to an island very often, in the sim, in a Beaver. And I need a map.

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This reminds me of that commercial on TV where there is a bunch of old men sitting around a board-room table screaming about how they are going to bring things to the market whenever they want to bring them to the market, not when there customers want them to bring it to the market. The idea of the commercial was that this is how business used to operate, but this is not possible anymore. Way to many other people out there willing to fill in wherever you left a big hole in your marketing channel. This is where FSNavigator is at.No news = go buy FSCommander. The FSNavigator guy may want to bring his product to the market whenever he wants, but he can't expect for everyone to sit around and wait for him endlessly. In the end, the guy probably doesn't really do this for the money anyway. He probably just puts this thing together for fun, so all this doesn't really matter to him. If that is the case, then he can take as long as he wants to really.

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I've used FS Navigator for years. It was(is) one of my essential addons. In fact there are three essential/necessary addons which I could never do without:FS NavigatorAI program - Always went with MyTraffic now MyTrafficXWeather Program - Always Active Sky now ASX (and X Graphics).So I've missed FS Nav badly. I'll wait a little longer though because we're now in mid-2007.

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>No news = go buy FSCommander. The FSNavigator guy may want to>bring his product to the market whenever he wants, but he>can't expect for everyone to sit around and wait for him>endlessly. In the end, the guy probably doesn't really do>this for the money anyway. He probably just puts this thing>together for fun, so all this doesn't really matter to him. >If that is the case, then he can take as long as he wants to>really.Only problem is that FSC appears not to have some of the functionality that FSN was famous for ie F9 hotkey and direct export of flight plans to the sim.I just wish the dev would give us interested potential buyers a peek at what is to come in FSN5.0.Chris Porter:-outtaPerthWestern AustraliaCheck out my 5th Around the World flight with MS FSX at http://members.iinet.com.au/~portercbp/fly...W_05/index.html

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Having been an FSNav user for a while now, I have patiently waited for the FSX version for many months, but today I cracked and installed FS Commander demo version. It's not too shabby, but I'd much rather have the ole familiar FSNav integrated interface, but if FSNav doesn't come to the party real soon, then my ship jump will be permanent. Methinks there are many others like me too, so come on FSNav, don't push us all over to the dark side!Gary

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