59 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

Surely it would be word not allowed easy to determine if an unidentified object was a civilian airliner?? Those things have transponders, and broadcast their position to half the galaxy.

 

Well, the so called "green triangle" video was taken from the deck of a ship during the Omaha UFO incident, where numerous objects were seen. As a former professional photographer it was obvious to me that it was the shape of the lens aperture they were seeing, hence why it was triangular. And it was obviously flashing its lights in the same pattern as an airliner. In fact it was the same pattern as a 737. Pretty obvious what it was. Pretty surprising really that the military/Pentagon where fooled at all. If they were, they may have identified it in short order but not released that information to the media. 

As for the aircrafts transponder, I don't think that entered into the equation. I don't think it was a case of the whole ship on alert and the ships radar interrogating the transponder in real time. More like a couple of guys on the deck filmed it at altitude and later passed it on to their supervisors. 

After the fact, the transponder obviously wouldn't be relevant, but as I mentioned, flight tracking software identified that there were airliners in that vicinity, in fact the ship was beneath a major airliner route.. The other triangles around it at the time were stars, would you believe, any highlight that's slightly out of focus can take on the shape of the lens aperture. 

Just goes to show how easily people are fooled, by mundane things in the sky, into thinking its something mysterious or aliens. It would appear that even the military authorities aren't immune. 

 

 

 

Edited May 20, 20224 yr by martin-w

Same for the "gimble" video rotation, As a former photographer I've seen glare rotating many times, so had a good idea what was happening. Countless individuals were fooled into thinking the craft was rotating though, even making claims that it backed up Bob Lazar's account of how the alien craft fly. 🙄

What the object was we don't know, but as Mick West's excellent analysis below demonstrates, there was no "physics defying" rotation.

 

 

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Well, the so called "green triangle" video was taken from the deck of a ship during the Omaha UFO incident, where numerous objects were seen. As a former professional photographer it was obvious to me that it was the shape of the lens aperture they were seeing, hence why it was triangular. And it was obviously flashing its lights in the same pattern as an airliner. In fact it was the same pattern as a 737. Pretty obvious what it was. Pretty surprising really that the military/Pentagon where fooled at all.

I don't buy the suggestion that the navy were "fooled" at all. Bearing that in mind, it makes me wonder whether they are deliberately trying to fool the rest of us into thinking that they are incompetent, so that everyone gets bored and dismisses all of the sightings. Disinformation is a useful tactic (or should that be tictac) when you want to divert attention.

38 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

I don't buy the suggestion that the navy were "fooled" at all. Bearing that in mind, it makes me wonder whether they are deliberately trying to fool the rest of us into thinking that they are incompetent, so that everyone gets bored and dismisses all of the sightings. Disinformation is a useful tactic (or should that be tictac) when you want to divert attention.

 

Who knows, Chris. As I said above... "they may have identified it in short order but not released that information to the media" for whatever reason. As I mentioned previously, this stuff could go the same way previous investigations have, a few hearings, an official investigation, kick the can down the road a bit, then when the media get bored and its no longer news, slowly fades away. 

The ATFLIR video's that were released were not particularly impressive. And not deliberately released by the Pentagon, they were leaked by Elizondo, or rather he helped to leak them. 

According to Elizondo, there is footage in the Pentagon's possession that is "extremely compelling", "definitive" and "perplexing" he went on to say it was circulated amongst the US intelligence community.

 

 

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The video is said to show multiple UFOs which are moving in ways and strange "patterns" that humans do not conventionally understand - with data recorded using US military systems.

It was recorded while he was still at AATIP between 2008 and 2012, the craft were big enough for "several" human sized beings to fit inside, and the objects were not a "Tic Tac" shape.

 

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15651482/pentagon-23-minute-ufo-video-insider/

Edited May 20, 20224 yr by martin-w