June 3, 20224 yr Then try reaching out your hands and placing them on your monitor screen and rebuke Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation. And give the keyboard a 3 finger salute and look in task monitor processes for Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation. And disable it. -- This will do nothing for stutters if your stutters are only visual. It may be a cure if you hear noise during the stutters. MSFS DEV mode FPS display: I noticed black lines in the Main Thread color bar every time there was a stutter. Every time. So I knew the cpu was doing something in the background. Since there was an associated noise, I looked for something to do with sound. With WADGI process running flying from little LSTA (Swiss) thru the canyons west towards Lake Geneva (which separates Switzerland from France), I got brief one second stutters every minute or so during the 30 minute flight. There were black lines in the Main Thread bar about 3 times that often. I disabled WADGI and did the same 30 minute flight: 0 black lines, 0 stutters. (before there were about 90 times black lines appeared and about 30 times there was a noisy stutter when that happened). I'm not sure what WADGI is but there are fewer adjustments available from the speaker icon on the taskbar with it disabled. But my sound does not change at all, I guess because I'm not using other sound drivers, just the normal Realtec High Definition sound. 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
June 3, 20224 yr I just closed Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation from the Task Manager - I lost all sound on my PC, and the process then just restarted anyway - but I still had no sound until I restarted my PC. Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
June 3, 20224 yr Author 8 hours ago, JYW said: I just closed Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation from the Task Manager - I lost all sound on my PC, and the process then just restarted anyway - but I still had no sound until I restarted my PC. Thanks for report, that proves this 'miracle' will not work for everybody. I use the exact flight above often, to test planes, MSFS options, etc. It's my standardized test. Way back at one of the Sim Updates, Asobo added to options under Sound. At that time these stutters began to appear on my sim in heavy dense scenery areas. Every flight of my standardized test since then had these stutters. But if and when I remove WADGI (background process) then there are no more stutters, no more black lines in the DEV mode FPS monitor main thread color bar. 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
June 3, 20224 yr Author It was WU Australia that introduced the sound cutout stutter over dense scenery issue (not a sim update). FSDreamteam were baffled why a Word Update suddenly caused stutters with their Swiss mesh. A world update is not like a sim update. So that's when this issue started. Here's a thread back when this issue began: Pause/stutter every minute or so - Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020) - The AVSIM Community 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
June 3, 20224 yr What I noticed was that this Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation doesn't have it's own process, for example that can be set to disabled in it's launch properties. It seems to run as part of the wider Windows Audio process (as far as I can tell). So would have to be shut down manually each time. Interesting investiation though. I do get some audio pops and stutters in MSFS, hence the interest. Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
June 3, 20224 yr I get those scratches and pops every now an then. I thought it was my creative sound drivers. I'm glad that it's not. MSFS
June 3, 20224 yr 5 minutes ago, DJJose said: I get those scratches and pops every now an then. I thought it was my creative sound drivers. I'm glad that it's not. I use a completely external soundboard (that I also used for music creation) on my PC and still get those occasional pops and stutters, so yeah, I definitely think it's a minor issue with the MSFS audio engine. Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
June 3, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, JYW said: I use a completely external soundboard (that I also used for music creation) on my PC and still get those occasional pops and stutters, so yeah, I definitely think it's a minor issue with the MSFS audio engine. They are more prevalent when stutters are present. The only stutters I've had since I upgraded my CPU/RAM/Board were using some freeware mesh in Switzerland. I deleted that and my pauses/stutters were gone. But, occasionally I do hear the sound distortion. MSFS
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