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Yeah, that "Two Oh Six" is awful! 😄 If that had to do that, "Two Zero Six" would have been much better.

Ah thank you, for some reason I thought it was Scotland. Couldn't be more different. 😄 I have almost every payware scenery for the PNW (and some great freeware too) but haven't flown from 1WA6 or 7S3 for a long time. Time for that to change.

Where are you in this pic? It looks incredibly evocative and immersive! Scotland?

That's a different version from the payware AS Twotter that was sold for MSFS2020. For the free native version, AS improved the visuals but stripped out a lot of the systems and complexities. It's one of the worst flying default aircraft as a result. Mind you, the payware AS Twotter wasn't much better! But this free rebuild is a huge improvement. It won't work with the default 2024 Twotter though. It get's installed over the AS payware Twotter for 2020 (even in 2024).

Yes, my apologies I was completely wrong. I've been having some axis issues that caused me to get weird, intermittent power results on the climb. Sorry for the false report!

I might be wrong on the turbocharging - apologies if so. My testing was very rudimentary and Ryan's more thorough feedback is more reliable!

Oh yes. One of the defining negative aspects that makes this very much a Carenado plane. I only took it to 9,000' but I definitely started to lose power, and on pulling back the mixtures... BAM! there's the power back. Such a fundamental.

Well I caved and bought it. I think it really comes down to how you like to fly in MSFS. If you're into bush flying (which I'm not!) there is a lot on offer here and the overall quality is quite good. The usual textures and modeling that Carenado do so well. Sounds are better than past offerings but a headset mode would really improve things. Flight dynamics are a little better than their 182s, 210, Baron, etc but still feel a little generic. The only real additional feature that comes from their new tablet, is the ability to add the cargo pod, etc. Apart from that it;s just a redesigned UI to choose your GTN750 and make the other usual changes. The KFC225 AP is bog standard Carenado, that comes in almost everything and is completely unrealistic in how it operates. It's just a skin for the absolute default KAP140, with all it's inaccuracies. I will fly it very rarely because IMHO, it still feels like a Carenado a lot more than it feels like a 206. Just very generic. But they should be given credit for at least advancing their features a quality - a little.

Welded gear 😄 I'm in exactly the same boat. I know people are seeing (and pointing out) some good firsts for Carenado with this, but I'm seeing things like (i) exactly the same panel that's in so many of their other aircraft, (ii) same KFC225 autopilot that's in everything, etc. Even with the new features I don't think it will float my boat. I have their 210 and fly it for about 5 minutes per year. Just too 'samey' as an aircraft type. Flying Carenado these days just feels soulless, compared to Black Square, A2A, COWS, etc.

Yet the cost firmly still reflects the inclusion of the VTR. Do you really expect potential customers to pay the same amount for just the aircraft, as those who will use the aircraft and the VTR? All I see in your reply above is social media nicities "Come and hang out with us™️", etc. Some of us can see right through it and know the difference between someone genuinely interacting open-mindedly with the community, versus simply using a forum such as this as a PR / marketing channel.

I did miss that, and it's very exciting news so thanks @Bernard Ducret !

If Carenado could add a headset simulation feature, as part of their RealXperience features I could really get on board with this.

It's highly likely it will turn up on Flightsim.to

For me personally (and perhaps others), it's not a case of scepticism, but of simply having no interest in a training package, while still being interested in flying the Cheyenne. I work in education, training and development, and the last thing I want to do in my sim time, is a structured training course 😄 I'm just raising this point, to suggest that perhaps it's not so much the case that there are many prospective purchasers out there, but that they are skeptical about the VTR and/or AI or buying credits. Simply that they want a good addon plane but have no interest in structured training of any type.

Bought it the day of release for 2024 and yes, if you even fly the 172 occassionally, it's a must have. Upgrade from 2020 version at £4 was indeed a bargain! Boris always prices his work incredibly fairly. Contrast that with the very expensive recent release of the TBM sound pack....

😄 I'm currently exploring whether I can replace that track with some James Brown more hardcore funk. It's a nice touch though isn't it! For those not aware what we're referring to, this EV-97 model comes with a MP3 player in the cockpit, that when played, plays a nice 'lounge synth funk track' 😊 The volume buttons even work so you can choose between quiet background music ambience, or blasting it out while you put some holes in the sky.

That is indeed true / correct, from the devs perspective. He explained it in the comments of the EV-97 video on his channel. But in my opinion, it would have been good if - once 2024 was released - he'd started to explore the new opportunities for his project that the 2024 SDK could bring. Most assets would have been transferable to the new sim. The biggest difference in assets would be the fact that 2020 uses PNG files for all of the aircraft's textures, whereas 2024 uses the KTX2 format, with integrated multiple LODs. But even 100 texture files can be converted from PNG to KTX2 in an hour or so - using the 2024 SDK tools. But your point is a fair one. Perhaps it's more realistic of me to hope that he will release a 2024 native version shortly down the line. I now have a few hours on the plane and it's a great, realistic little rendition. One thing about the EV-97 is that it never requires a lot of trimming through the flight phases. Pilots often joke about the EV-97 having a hidden FBW autotrim system. 😄 That's just banter but the controls are so light, that holding a touch of pressure against the control stick is barely noticeable. I have noticed that this is well reflected in this model. Another good depiction is the fact that deploying first (and second) stage flaps (out of a total of 3) doesn't hugely change the attitude of the EV-97 and doesn't cause significant ballooning or glide path 'upset'. Again, this is well represented in the model. If you like ULs / Microlights / LSAs in the sim, it's one of the best around. But it also feels like it could be much more. For example, the circuit breakers and even the hot/cold air cabin air intakes are not interactable. The control knobs are there but they are static and don't move. The use of the aliased VL3 sounds aren't a great choice in my honest opinion. The best, most realistic depiction of the Rotax 912 engine is the sim's default LSAs in the A5 Icon. Those sounds are very convincing. The VL3 sounds lack the 'roar' of going to 5800rpm on take off and just sound a little 'woofy', lacking presence and high end frequencies. Still love it though!

Hi Jon, Just picked it up. I can't overstate how interested I am in this model as this is the microlight that I have flown most for the last 11 years. I have around 420 hours on the EV-97. The first thing that shocked me a little (already knowing a lot about this product's development) was the cost. This is a simple VFR microlight that is very well modelled and textured but that comes with aliased, default MSFS LSA sounds and not a huge amount of additional options. £23 is far too expensive for this product in my opinion. I had expected for this to be in the £15 range. As for the addon itself, first impressions of the modelling, texturing and flight handling characteristics are very good. You can tell that the dev has really spent time getting feedback from EV-97 pilots and has tweaked the FDE. It doesn't feel like a generic MSFS LSA and I'm noticing a few traits that I find in the real aircraft. Aliased sounds is disappointing - especially at such a high, relative price for what is offered. The dev has stated publicly that if sales are positive, he will incorporate an update with custom sounds and more avionics options (including a more basic version, without the G3X that is more typical of EV-97s operating in the real world). I do like that the G3X is included because (a) a number of highly-specced EV-97s are leaving the factory with the G3X now (a recent development in the last year), although the majority are lower specced aircraft with only basic VFR instruments. Most EV-97s I've seen (including the plane I fly weekly) have basic gauges and then a mounting bracket in the main panel for an ipad. This is a plane where pilots are more likely to be navigating using Sky Demon or Foreflight, than with an integrated GPS. Although again, the G3X-equipped planes are leaving the factory. I like that the dev configured the Working Title G3X to include it's excellent GFC500X integrated autopilot. I've never seen or flown in a EV-97 with an autopilot, but I'm someone who likes to have one for sim convenience (popping for a coffee, without pausing the sim) 😉 The fact that the AP has no hardware panel (it's accessed from the G3X) fits well with this package. If you don't want to use the AP, there's no physical evidence it's even there. So I'm over the moon it's been released as the last EV-97 I know of in any flight sim, was an old model for FS9/FSX (can't remember the dev's name!). But my critical feedback would be :- This really is too expensive and I think casual simmers, not particularly drawn by this model will be a lot more likely to 'pass' on a purchase. At this pricepoint, this really should have come with custom sounds, recorded from the real EV-97. The bubble canopy changes some aspects of how the Rotax engine reverberates. Eg. An EV-97 and an Aeroprakt A32 with the same Rotax engine sound nothing alike. More versions would be good and more selectable, customisable options. No native MSFS2024 version. This is one of the most frustrating things about this hobby. Almost 3 years into MSFS2024's release, the majority of aircraft addons are still made (and limited to) the 2020 SDK standards. Innovation is held back, due to the need to appease 2020 users, who choose to stay on an old, outdated platform. With these points in mind, I'm really enjoying it and am stoked and appreciative that the dev spent 4 years creating and perfecting a good EV-97 for the sim.

I bought it on Simmarket, so I'm happy to sit the beta out and buy the native upgrade once it comes to Simmarket (in a stable version). The C24R is one of my all time favourites but I'm not massively into flying it at the moment, so I can avoid the urge to waste money on buying a full, fresh licence for the native version (which I did with the A2A Comanche native version, as I couldn't wait for it to come to JF!)

My opinion:- TFDI MD-11 - by far the best of the addons you mention. A stunning immersive package. Systems are the older generation of 'modern' (90s). Inibuilds Tristar - I don't own it. Some consider it study level, others that it is a lighter version of that, common with aircraft from Inibuilds. I know that it's not in the same league as the TFDi MD-11, from plenty of vids and previews I've seen. FSS 727 - I bought the 727-200 cargo and pax versions, and the 'Super 27' enhancement mod. I'll cover that last mod first - it's absolutely atrocious and has a score of 2.7 on the Marketplace. Very little works, the new autopilot is hugely glitchy. I would rate the original FSS 727-200as "okay". I had some enjoyable flights in it but it has lots of aspects that annoy or disappoint me, and it is nowhere near the level of fidelity of the TFDi MD-11. My summary :- The TFDi MD-11 is the best by far and it's unlikely you'd regret investing in it.

I've been pressing the Remove GSE button but only after turning the master switch on. I've not had any issues. Perhaps try doing it in that sequence at your end? Also, out of interest, had you manually removed any of the ground service equipment, before pressing the Remove button? If so I'm wonder whether it's crashing because the 'Remove GSE' button is trying to remove some equipment that has already been manually removed?

Great to hear! 😎

What do people mean by 'forced integration' and the 'Skypass/AI lock-in'. I don't need tons of detail, just... is it the case that you're use of the aircraft addon is restricted in some way, until this training business is undertaken?

It won't in 2024, as the V1 paintkit uses PNGs but the new V2 uses native KTX2 format. I agree we definitely need more liveries. I'm checking FSTO and Hangar Addons every day 😊 It's really awesome in my opinion. I know FSS have a very questionable reputation with airliners, but for GA I've always found them excellent. Their P2006 was amazing too and I'm sure it will follow as a 2024 new native version as well. Will happily pay the £9 upgrade from the 2020 version.

@Beagle12 Have you tried this one - it seems to refer to what you're talking about:- Also make sure subtitles are turned off (accessibility tab) :-