17 minutes ago, hs118 said:

Again, thanks for all your help ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Quite welcome. May God Bless you.
-B

On 1/5/2023 at 7:08 PM, hs118 said:

We are seeing some good news about the Longitude and AAU beta. Any reports on the CJ4? Particularly interested in flight model updates.

I have Deluxe version and will not probably update to get the Longitude.

Thanks in advance for any reports.

My apologies for any digression in this thread. I have re-quoted my original query and will emphasize my interest in direct, personal experience from CJ4 AAU flyers regarding the flight model of the Citation. To repeat, the buzz in the forum has been consistently on the Longitude, which I am not interested in purchasing. 

The original Citation model hand flew like "word not allowed" and does not have the flight model parameters in the config files that were introduced in SU9/10. 

Thanks again for any pertinent reports.

Edited January 7, 20233 yr by hs118

19 minutes ago, hs118 said:

The original Citation model hand flew like "word not allowed"

The CJ4 mod or the stock plane? Because the mod had a totally custom flight model.

21 minutes ago, hs118 said:

Thanks again for any pertinent reports.

The AAU1 version of the CJ4 has had a flight model overhaul. The response is much lighter (one of the big IRL pilot feedback items compared to the mod), the crosswind handling much smoother (you won't be running off runways), climb rates are right on the book, the pitch at various flight phases made much more accurate, takeoff stickiness eliminated, ground effect changed completely, fuel flow revamped, etc.

While our real life CJ4 drivers like it, whether or not any individual will dig it is really quite impossible to say. There's nothing quite so subjective as flight models.

16 minutes ago, MattNischan said:

The CJ4 mod or the stock plane? Because the mod had a totally custom flight model.

The AAU1 version of the CJ4 has had a flight model overhaul. The response is much lighter (one of the big IRL pilot feedback items compared to the mod), the crosswind handling much smoother (you won't be running off runways), climb rates are right on the book, the pitch at various flight phases made much more accurate, takeoff stickiness eliminated, ground effect changed completely, fuel flow revamped, etc.

While our real life CJ4 drivers like it, whether or not any individual will dig it is really quite impossible to say. There's nothing quite so subjective as flight models.

Thanks, Matt, for jumping in. I never flew your mod, only the original model. Regards the CJ4 FM and flight models in general, if you can fly it by the POH that is good enough for and required by me. Especially glad you mentioned pitch angles in a jet, this shows great attention to the flight model. Simmers have the luxury (dare I say "audacity") to make the handling subjective, but the "numbers" are the "numbers".

Looking forward to your work.

Thanks

Edited January 7, 20233 yr by hs118