July 29, 20232 yr I recently came across this site https://pc-builds.com/ that among other things has various calculators that enable you check out CPU/GPU combinations for bottlenecks and expected FPS in many games including MSFS2020. In my case it indicated that my 9900KF/3080ti was well balanced ie no bottlenecks and with the ultra preset should give a minimum FPS of 48 which seems about right for a default aircraft and default scenery and no AI. But what it also showed was that if I kept the 9900KF and swapped out the 3080ti for a 4080 the calculator predicted no increase in FPS. Alternatively if I kept the 3080ti and swapped out the 9900KF for a 13900KF the calculator predicted a vey modest increase in minimum FPS to 51. It was only when I replaced both the CPU and the GPU with a 13900K and a 4080 respectively that the calculator predicted a doubling of minimum FPS to 99. I found this all very useful in planning out where I might go with a future hardware upgrade. It seems just replacing the CPU/motherboard and keeping the 3080ti doesn't, after considerable expense, achieve much. Alternatively keeping the 9900KF and replacing the 3080ti with a 4080 doesn't gain me anything unless I enable FG which might work but it would be a roll of the dice. Bruce Bruce Bartlett Frodo: "I wish none of this had happened." Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."
July 29, 20232 yr 10 hours ago, brucewtb said: I recently came across this site https://pc-builds.com/ that among other things has various calculators that enable you check out CPU/GPU combinations for bottlenecks and expected FPS in many games including MSFS2020 I just tried this and if told me the graphics card in my 13900k/4090 system was too weak for the task and I should upgrade it. Yikes! 🥺 [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
July 29, 20232 yr 7 hours ago, odourboy said: I just tried this and if told me the graphics card in my 13900k/4090 system was too weak for the task and I should upgrade it. Yikes! 🥺 Interesting. For my 5800X3D/4090 in MSFS at 6K (roughly what I run VR at), it says I have a perfect match. 9800X3D | 4090 | 64GB | 2+1TB NVME | 2TB SSD | 2TB HDD | 85/50/43” TVs | Quest 3 | DOF H3 Motion Rig | Buttkicker | T.16000M Flight Kit MSFS @ 4K Ultra DLSS Performance FG 80 FPS | VR VDXR Godlike 80Hz SSW | MSFS VR DLSS Quality, Ultra Preset - Windows 11 Acer Nitro 5 | i5-11400H | RTX 3060 6 GB | 32GB DDR4 | 15.6" FHD IPS 144Hz | 2 x 512 GB SSD | Windows 11
July 30, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Reset XPDR said: Interesting. For my 5800X3D/4090 in MSFS at 6K (roughly what I run VR at), it says I have a perfect match. That makes no sense since your CPU is even more capable. 🤔 [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
July 30, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, odourboy said: That makes no sense since your CPU is even more capable. 🤔 Well if I change my CPU to a 13900K, it says my GPU is under powered by 46%, suggesting the 13900K gives double the performance in MSFS which I don't believe to be true as I believe they perform relatively similar in MSFS. Very strange. 9800X3D | 4090 | 64GB | 2+1TB NVME | 2TB SSD | 2TB HDD | 85/50/43” TVs | Quest 3 | DOF H3 Motion Rig | Buttkicker | T.16000M Flight Kit MSFS @ 4K Ultra DLSS Performance FG 80 FPS | VR VDXR Godlike 80Hz SSW | MSFS VR DLSS Quality, Ultra Preset - Windows 11 Acer Nitro 5 | i5-11400H | RTX 3060 6 GB | 32GB DDR4 | 15.6" FHD IPS 144Hz | 2 x 512 GB SSD | Windows 11
July 30, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, Reset XPDR said: Well if I change my CPU to a 13900K, it says my GPU is under powered by 46%, suggesting the 13900K gives double the performance in MSFS which I don't believe to be true as I believe they perform relatively similar in MSFS. Very strange. So hard to know what to make of this site although I have seen other benchmarks suggesting the 13900K is stronger in MSFS20220 than the 5800X3D but not by the margin indicated here. Anyhow the point I was trying to make is that you need to be careful in doing partial system upgrades to avoid just wasting money. Bruce Bruce Bartlett Frodo: "I wish none of this had happened." Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."
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