March 25, 20233 yr Hello guys, I am about to order the ultimate PC for sim. However I am not very good with parts of PC and would like to ask you if there is something that you would change in this build? Thanks Luka Makhviladze
March 25, 20233 yr If it would be me, I would go with intel. i9-13900K and Z790 Motherboard. But that's just me. My years of flight simming always brings me back to intel. I am not sure why, but every time I do research for a new system it seems AMD is slightly behind, when it comes to simming... Again, just my opinion, doesn't mean your pick is bad... Most of what is said on the Internet may be the same thing they shovel on the regular basis at the local barn.
March 25, 20233 yr I just recently put together a new system with Asus ROG Strix Z690-F as the MB, went the Intel route. If yours is capable of multiple PCIe drives, why put in a spinner? I know my board can take 4 of the drives. I'm using 2x 1TB Samsung 970 Evo Plus and 1x 2TB 970 Evo Plus. Have a vacant slot waiting for a sale 😉
March 25, 20233 yr Author 28 minutes ago, YYZ said: I just recently put together a new system with Asus ROG Strix Z690-F as the MB, went the Intel route. If yours is capable of multiple PCIe drives, why put in a spinner? I know my board can take 4 of the drives. I'm using 2x 1TB Samsung 970 Evo Plus and 1x 2TB 970 Evo Plus. Have a vacant slot waiting for a sale 😉 So you mean it would be better instead of 2x2TB to have 4x1TB? Luka Makhviladze
March 25, 20233 yr I doubt you need a network card. IIRC that MB has a 2.5G LAN interface. I would get an ATX 3.0 PSU with 12vhpwr connection for the rtx 4090. I'd get bigger, faster NVMe cards, like WD_BLACK sn850 or GAMMIX S70 Blade 2TB. 32 GB RAM is plenty for MSFS. (But if you want 64, go for it!) Edited March 25, 20233 yr by odourboy [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
March 25, 20233 yr Well, I guess it depends on your needs. Your board has 2 PCIe 4 slots and 2 PCIe 5 slots you can use for drives I believe. You would want to double check but you could probably use PCIe4 drives all around if you wanted to save money if there is a cost factor. I also run 32GB DDR5 ram and can so far run MSFS 2020 with ultimate settings but I haven't stressed it yet. I did have to do a bios update before the DDR5 Ram would work even though the board said it supported it. Mine has 4 slots for PCIe 4. I wanted to get away from mechanical HDD's so my setup is: C:\ OS and related work programs like Office 365 -- 1TB D:\ File Storage -- 1TB E:\ Flight sims only -- 2 TB F:\ External Asus Optical drive for old flight sims that need a boot disk like CFS 1 and whatever else I may need it for. It means a quieter machine for sure. Some of the Samsun Pro drives did have some issues, so double check on the ones you want. That's why I went with the EVO Plus drives.
March 27, 20233 yr @Lukamak I'd consider 2 sticks of ram rather than 4 -- or if you go 4 sticks make sure your motherboard will behave itself with 4 and your expected use. Also you could prioritize CL (CAS Latency) rather than raw mhz with memory on AM5 + 7xxx3D cpus. In other words if I have DDR5 6000 CL30, and DDR5 5600 CL28, I'd be inclined to go with the CL28 sticks for a flight sim build. Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
March 28, 20233 yr Author 16 hours ago, Mace said: @Lukamak I'd consider 2 sticks of ram rather than 4 -- or if you go 4 sticks make sure your motherboard will behave itself with 4 and your expected use. Also you could prioritize CL (CAS Latency) rather than raw mhz with memory on AM5 + 7xxx3D cpus. In other words if I have DDR5 6000 CL30, and DDR5 5600 CL28, I'd be inclined to go with the CL28 sticks for a flight sim build. Thanks, so is lower CL better? What I found online Corsair has 40 CL Luka Makhviladze
March 28, 20233 yr 2 hours ago, Lukamak said: Thanks, so is lower CL better? What I found online Corsair has 40 CL Yes, lower CL is better. But the difference would be relatively small on the AM5 platform. If CL40 ram is the lowest CAS Latency you can find, I guess you'd have to go with it. If you're in the UK though, I would think you could find some CL36 ram or CL30 or something like that. Maybe in the large kit size you're looking at (64GB) the CL's are higher. I haven't specced out 64 gig kits because I'm probably going with 32 gb (2x16) unless someone around here changes my mind :) Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
March 28, 20233 yr Author 2 hours ago, Mace said: Yes, lower CL is better. But the difference would be relatively small on the AM5 platform. If CL40 ram is the lowest CAS Latency you can find, I guess you'd have to go with it. If you're in the UK though, I would think you could find some CL36 ram or CL30 or something like that. Maybe in the large kit size you're looking at (64GB) the CL's are higher. I haven't specced out 64 gig kits because I'm probably going with 32 gb (2x16) unless someone around here changes my mind 🙂 To be honest I am just really far from the technical aspects of computers so thats why I decided to make a build with pcspecialists.co.uk custom pc configurator. I go off what they have to offer there but I have sent an email to them asking if I can add some custom parts. Luka Makhviladze
March 28, 20233 yr 2 hours ago, Lukamak said: To be honest I am just really far from the technical aspects of computers so thats why I decided to make a build with pcspecialists.co.uk custom pc configurator. I go off what they have to offer there but I have sent an email to them asking if I can add some custom parts. In that case I'd follow their direction. They know what ram will work with the board they choose, and I'd go with their guidance. Ram speed is not going to matter much anyway with AM5, and your goal should be compatibility/usability above all. The last thing you want is an unstable machine. It's for flying, not tinkering. Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
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