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This post will be a very unusual one for me as I usually do not involve myself with posting unless it directly affects my work.This may be quite a bit longer than some other posts but lately I have felt an ever growing need to express my feelings on the subject of FSX.Every time that a new version of any graphics intensive software is released there is an almost immediate need to upgrade hardware yet on these forums it

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FSX is fantastic, could never go back to FS9 and I only have an FX-57 amd and a XFX 7950xxx card.FSX rocks, lets hope more poeple find the truth out and give it a try instead of listening to all the negatives that are written about FSX by people who obviuosly dont know how good FSX is.Here's hoping for more FSX addonshttp://www.IVIBE.com http://www.FS-GS.com Intellivibe guarantees you better Vibrations sitting in the cockpit / racecar .. FS-GS guarantees you better Frame Rates for a lot less than a costly upgrade ..

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What Super 80 are you flying? I've been thinking about getting one.Also, good post. I agree with most of what you said.

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Excellent post!I've always enjoyed FSX from day one, even on my old P4 3.4 system. I built the new rig not out of dissatisfaction with FSX but just because I could and I wanted to. I am amazed at the exceptional quality and performance with most of the bells and whistles.And I also agree totally about multiplayer - To see automobile traffic and AI when flying MP is a kick.Sadly, there are a LOT of people who *think* they know a lot about computers who have to blame FSX for their own ineptitude in setting up and maintaining a system.No, it's not perfect but I have never seen any software that is AND it still is the best sim I have ever flown.Just MHO,VicQ6600 G0 CPU 2.4 o/c 3.6Evga 680i A1 with P30 BIOS 2G XP2-8500 DDR2 1066FSB Mushkin 996535 RAM 5-5-4-12-2T320G 7200 HD partitioined for XP/Vista/Programs 2 - 74G Raptors in RAID0 500G 7200 HD for backup SATA DVD burner Evga 8800GTS 640 PCIe Kandalf LCS case w/ built in liquid cooling 850W Thermaltake power supplyVisit the Virtual Pilot's Centerwww.flightadventures.comRadar Contact Supporter: http://www.jdtllc.com/

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>I and the people I fly with use multiplayer to travel all over>the world and we have a great time.>FSX is the best simulator I have ever flown. Multi-player>through sim-connect is a fantastic concept which has given me>hours of enjoyment and a new appreciation of the intricacies>of flight far beyond Fs9.If only multiplayer worked for everyone. Unfortunately, there's plenty of us who really like the improvements FSX's multiplayer offers over FS9, but who simply can not enjoy them because the lobby / network system used in FSX refuses to work as it should. I just spent two whole hours trying and trying to get some multiplayer action going and only managed to connect TWICE. The first succesful session ended into a CTD about 5 minutes later while I was operating the GPS in a shared cockpit. The second ended because I couldn't find anyone to share a plane with.While I'm glad someone's enjoying it, I do reserve the right to feel bummed when it does not work for me. Which is most of the time :/

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I do agree that FSX is very welcom advancement in the FS series for all the reasons you specify, and I've said it before but with the performance issues and OS changes etc.... it has thrown people for a loop. Do I get DX10 compatible hardware including Vista or wait a year etc.....?Couple that with hardware finally being available to run FS9 full tilt with all the add-ons, not to mention the massive investment many have put into those FS9 add-ons and you can then see why many have chosen to stay with FS9 for now.With that said, the rumour mill and anti-FSX campaign by some seem juvenile and close-minded at times and I don't believe produces any fruitful progression to the flight sim community and reputation.Ian.

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I fly multiplayer only now, and I have zero problems connecting, except when the Gamespy servers themselves are having issues, which isnt often. Sounds like a connection or configuration issue on your end. Sorry to hear you are having problems, multiplayer is the only way to fly !As far as the Flight1 MD80, up to this point it is the BEST airliner by far for FSX, IF you like the steam gauges and an old style 'flight computer.

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I wish it was at my end, then I might have a chance of fixing it :/

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Totally agree with this post. I did not buy FSX until 2 weeks ago, based on some negative reviews, to find out I was missing a great great flight simulator, the best so far !!!I'm just having some troubles with the clouds ... and don't know if there are some replacements in lower quality. Besides that, I'm delighted with this wonderful product :-)

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I would like to buy a complex aircraft with a good VC that can share cockpits. So you say the Flight 1 MD fits the bill?If so, I am there...Best Regards, Donald T.:-waveFLYing? It's cool. Trillions of birds and insects can't be wrong.

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>I fly multiplayer only now, and I have zero problems>connecting, except when the Gamespy servers themselves are>having issues, which isnt often. Sounds like a connection or>configuration issue on your end. Sorry to hear you are having>problems, multiplayer is the only way to fly !>>As far as the Flight1 MD80, up to this point it is the BEST>airliner by far for FSX, IF you like the steam gauges and an>old style 'flight computer.Thanks for the suggestion, I'll definitely be checking it out now.

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Run, don't walk, and get it :-)BTW, you WILL need to read the 292 page manual, if that gives you an idea of the complexity :)

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Please let me use your post as an example of exactly what I am talking about.and please understand that this is not personal.After reading your post I think that most people would believe that your problem with simconnect and multiplayer is a fault with FSX and a condition that the majority of users experienceBut it is very unlikely that this is the case.In fact in my experience and that of many others it is not the case at all.This doesn't mean that I reject what you are saying I believe you.But I do not see it as directly related to FSX.I would guess that your problem is machine based. You see it as sim related because the intensity of the software highlights the machine specific error. In fact a post such as yours or others deserve an answer but it doesn't, in my opinion, belong in the FSX forum where others are liable to see it as a fault with the sim but rather in a forum about networks, connectivity, hardware etc................

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>I wish it was at my end, then I might have a chance of fixing>it :/I'm sorry you've been having troubles. Just out of curiosity, have you tried on another computer? I know that's not always as easy as it sounds, I just happen to have more than one in my apartment, so I like to get a "second opinion" when I run into issues.And if the experience at the Reno Air Races were any indication, multiplayer is going to get even better.

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>I wish it was at my end, then I might have a chance of fixing>it :/I can almost guarentee its on your end. If you cant find the problem, there is a great service that can tweak your system so that FSX runs darn near perfect, it would be worth your time to check them out... www.fs-gs.com

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"I'm just having some troubles with the clouds ... and don't know if there are some replacements in lower quality."I'm using Chris Willis's FS9 clouds. I think he called them the HiFPS cloud set, or some name such as that. They work fine for me. R-

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>After reading your post I think that most people would believe>that your problem with simconnect and multiplayer is a fault>with FSX and a condition that the majority of users>experienceYou're right, they might think that - so just to make sure no one has misunderstood the problem, let me repeat what was already said on the FSX multiplayer forum some time ago:GameSpy's multiplayer component is to blame.I don't know what their relation to the SimConnect module is, I just know that I have better luck connecting to FSX hosts if I block IGN's master servers with a program such as PeerGuardian2. Unfortunately this also means that soon after connecting to the host I'm logged out of GameSpy and lose the friends list and text chat capabilities.If I can obtain the host's IP address (for example by examining PeerGuardian's logs) I can of course connect directly to the host without logging onto GameSpy AND I am able to use text chat - however I once again do not have access to the friends list (naturally, since I'm not logged onto GameSpy). While I admit that this is better than nothing, I don't find it particularly acceptable to have to go through such hoops just to be able to connect to a host.That is not to say that I can avoid any and all problems simply by bypassing GameSpy - there are times when the connection is dropped due to other reasons beyond Aces, GameSpy or myself. I understand that. I just know that by cutting GameSpy out I greatly decrease the amount of disconnection problems I'm having (while at the same time greatly increasing the effort I have to go through to "enjoy" FSX's multiplayer component).>But I do not see it as directly related to FSX.It is related to FSX in the sense that the issues I and others are experiencing are seriously diminishing our enjoyment of a considerable portion of the product. The unfortunate thing about all this is that - as Phil pointed out in the thread where these problems were discussed before - Aces can't do much about it since GameSpy is the one who provided the multiplayer component. GameSpy's support pages on the other hand tell me to contact the game's developer (Aces), who are in their opinion responsible for providing support for this and other aspects of their game.As I said - I wish the problem was at my end, then I could possibly do something about it. I don't see any help coming from the abovementioned parties.>I would guess that your problem is machine based. You see it>as sim related because the intensity of the software>highlights the machine specific error. You might not have realized this, but a majority of the problems we're facing take place well before we even get to the sim part of the game. The biggest problem is connecting to a host. A connection attempt might fail part-way through loading weather, or list of user airplanes. Sometimes we get to see the briefing room, only to be told that the "Host has cancelled the session", or that "You have lost connection" or that "You might have connected from another computer".Should we be so lucky as to actually stay connected and manage to join the session, *usually* things work ok. There are disconnections from time to time and that's understandable. Sometimes shared cockpit causes a CTD. These are the ordinary kind of problems I can live with and the latter I can attribute to some combination of hardware, software and bad luck.>In fact a post such as yours or others deserve an answer but>it doesn't, in my opinion, belong in the FSX forum where>others are liable to see it as a fault with the sim but rather>in a forum about networks, connectivity, hardware>etc................ And that's where it's been discussed previously and in length:http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho...95&topic_id=978Further discussion of network problems should in my opinion, too, be taken to the multiplayer forum - however what I have said thus far relates to your original topic in a very real way. There's a lot of good in FSX and the developers deserve credit for that, but that doesn't mean you can just skip the bad things. Just because you don't experience them doesn't mean others should not know of them. There needs to be a balance.And no, this isn't personal :)

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>I'm sorry you've been having troubles. Just out of curiosity,>have you tried on another computer? I know that's not always>as easy as it sounds, I just happen to have more than one in>my apartment, so I like to get a "second opinion" when I run>into issues.No, unfortunately I don't have another computer I could try this on :/

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>I can almost guarentee its on your end. If you cant find the>problem, there is a great service that can tweak your system>so that FSX runs darn near perfect, it would be worth your>time to check them out... www.fs-gs.comI've heard of him. I *should* probably write him and ask if he's dealt with anyone with these disconnection and lobby problems and managed to fix them.EDIT:Done. Mailed the guy and asked about it. Let's see what he has to say :)

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One of the really nice things about the Super 80 is that, if you don't want all the complexity, you can also fly it as easily as the default airliners by using the auto configurations available for each phase of flight.

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>>I can almost guarentee its on your end. If you cant find>the>>problem, there is a great service that can tweak your system>>so that FSX runs darn near perfect, it would be worth your>>time to check them out... www.fs-gs.com>>I've heard of him. I *should* probably write him and ask if>he's dealt with anyone with these disconnection and lobby>problems and managed to fix them.>>EDIT:>>Done. Mailed the guy and asked about it. Let's see what he has>to say :)You do realize that the fs-gs guy is the original poster in this thread. ;)RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

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Not to take this thread off topic, but my question was about shared cockpit in the Flight 1 Super 80. That is the only bell or whistle I care about, and what I will base my purchase (or not) on. Is it fully compatible?Back to the topic at hand, FSX has given me plenty of enjoyment. The only hardware upgrade (Other than a mike) I did was to add a gig of RAM to bring my rig to a total of 1.5. Lately I have been using FSX more than FS9, and except for the ocasional mission all of it has been multiplayer. FSX default looks slightly better than my FS9 with Ultimate terrain, GE Pro and Active Sky at the settings I run. My settings are dumbed down from FS9 levels in FSX.I never apreciated round earth till I took off from 22N in a Tomcat; burned up to 30,000 feet and flew to KWWD entirely by pilotage. I could see the peninsula some 90 miles away as soon as I took off; and the overal way FSX draws distant terrain is much better than FS9.And shared cockpit... I am willing to put up with default and freeware if they are compatible... Definitely.Best Regards, Donald T.:-waveFLYing? It's cool. Trillions of birds and insects can't be wrong.

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I totally agree regarding the ignorance of some of the comments I've read here, not meaning that as an insult.It's just that some of the comments like "Crysis has better graphics and runs faster than fsx." really shows a complete lack of understanding. Never mind the fact that crysis is drawing an area the size of an island while FSX draws hundreds and hundreds of miles of visibility and fills it all with autogen. And how Phil has to continually explain the magic screenies to so many premadona's. It's inconceivable to me that people examined those screenies and instantly believed they were anything other than an artists concept drawing. The FSX team gave us a glimpse into the FSX development process and legions of blind came out in groves to beat them to death for doing it.Or how FSX draws more autogen at default settings than FS9 does maxed out. But because there are sliders, every tom, dick, and harry slates FSX because HE can't run with sliders maxed. God forbid reducing the sliders 'cause that just feels all icky and "I'll never run a game like that." or "I shouldn't have to run a game like that".Personaly I think the team did an incredible job considering they are rendering a planet. The main area of improvement I would like to see in the future is runways with elevation gradiants. I'm running FSX at 1600x1200x32 16xAF 4xSSAA with tons of payware and it still runs fine. I'd like it to run faster, but It's fast enough right now. I agree with the FSX design targets, I'm glad they left some sliders that I can't presently max out. Imo it's nice to have some spare IQ left in the tank for when the new cpus / gpus come out in Q1.

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