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4Tb M.2 drive - is partitioning feasible?

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12 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

I realise that. 😉 Loading time of P3D needs to be quicker. I’m not as young as I used to be. Time matters. 😁

I moved P3D from a SSD to a Samsung 990 PRO M2 drive three times faster but not loading three times faster. other factors are at play 20 year old code CPU`s can only crunch data at the max no more, this the bottleneck that holds old titles back even MSFS the 4090 is held back by the CPU cannot push data through fast enough.


 

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@G-RFRY, but I bet it was considerably faster otherwise you wouldn't have been a happy bunny.

Every flight sim is probably CPU limited. All you can do is get the fastest CPU, GPU, RAM and be sensible with your settings and you'll be satisfied.


Ray (Cheshire, England).
System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke.
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My 2d worth (yes, still old currency). I partitioned my drives to make backup easier. Small chunks relating to individual areas of interest can be reloaded much quicker if required to be restored.


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1 hour ago, IanHarrison said:

My 2d worth (yes, still old currency). I partitioned my drives to make backup easier. Small chunks relating to individual areas of interest can be reloaded much quicker if required to be restored.

I did think about that but generally back up my C and D drives on the same day. Same amount of data just a different method of backing it up.

I’ve never had to restore a complete drive as I’ve never suffered a SSD crash. 🤞


Ray (Cheshire, England).
System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke.
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On 9/14/2023 at 3:51 AM, Ray Proudfoot said:

but I bet it was considerably faster otherwise you wouldn't have been a happy bunny.

Even from a good Sata SSD to an speedy new nvme M2 drive will only decrease load times by a few seconds. 


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5 minutes ago, Dave_YVR said:

Even from a good Sata SSD to a speedy new nvme M2 drive will only decrease load times by a few seconds. 

But add in a faster CPU, DDR5 RAM over DDR4 plus the M.2 and load speeds should be noticeably quicker.


Ray (Cheshire, England).
System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke.
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On 9/13/2023 at 12:32 AM, Ray Proudfoot said:

That was my original plan but was told that one connection would be on the slower gen 4 socket. Reviews tell you gen 4 is a lot slower than gen 5 but in reality is it noticeable?

The alternative would be to have two M.2 drives both connected to the gen 5 sockets but that would mean I couldn’t connect a future gen 5 GPU. It would take something special to make the 4090 worth replacing.

One thing is for sure. It will take some effort to get close to filling 4Tb.

For backups I have a Synology NAS box. Well worth considering.

Having the additional drive on the gen4 socket will still be plenty fast. Go for it.

All this talk of upgrades is making me think hmmm....14900k or AMD3D. lol...


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As others have suggested, keep them seperate, no partitioning. The speed difference is negligible. With frequent backups for redundancy a failed drive isnt going to give you any major issues other than a cheap hit to the hip pocket. 

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6 minutes ago, TurboKen said:

Having the additional drive on the gen4 socket will still be plenty fast. Go for it.

All this talk of upgrades is making me think hmmm....14900k or AMD3D. lol...

Too late now. It’s all ordered and I’m just awaiting the build to start.

5 minutes ago, Garys said:

As others have suggested, keep them seperate, no partitioning. The speed difference is negligible. With frequent backups for redundancy a failed drive isnt going to give you any major issues other than a cheap hit to the hip pocket. 

I’ve never had a failed drive in any flight sim computer. The only one that crashed on me was a HDD in a Samsung netbook back in 2021. Mind you I bought it in 2009 and it was running constantly as it fed weather data every 15 mins to my website.

Replaced it with an SSD and it’s still going strong to this day. 👍


Ray (Cheshire, England).
System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke.
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10 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

But add in a faster CPU, DDR5 RAM over DDR4 plus the M.2 and load speeds should be noticeably quicker.

Maybe by a little bit, but it's still not going to be much. Even the DDR5 over DDR4 you aren't really going to notice it yet except in benchmarks.


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On 9/16/2023 at 12:12 AM, Ray Proudfoot said:

I’ve never had a failed drive in any flight sim computer.

I had one complete disaster about 4 years ago. A complete failure of the system drive. Since then nothing  of consequence.


Intel i7 6700K @4.3. 32gb Gskill 3200 RAM. Z170x Gigabyte m/b. 28" LG HD monitor. Win 10 Home. 500g Samsung 960 as Windows home. 1 Gb Mushkin SSD for P3D. GTX 1080 8gb.

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Its never really too late, you could always add another hard drive later if you decide you want another... Really easy to do.

Anyway, any updates on the system, or still waiting for it to be built.


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@TurboKen, still waiting and yes, another drive could be added if required.


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System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke.
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