6 hours ago, Jeeeno said:

I'd like to hear people's opinions. I'm mostly interested in these things, ordered by importance:

1) Flight dynamics

2) Autopilot simulation

3) System depth

 

 

1.  BlackSquare TBM 850.  Deep systems and a really nice flight model.  Landing this aircraft is a joy.

2.  FSR500 - everything is great apart from a twitchy flight model.  Immersion factor with the fuel and passenger simulation is very good.

3.  SWS PC12 - A really superb flight model and the best trim implementation of any aircraft, even better than the TBM850 imho, but let down by limited systems, no failures and release bugs.

However, you can't go wrong with any of them!  The PC12 after bug fixing plus future enhancments will be a killer aircraft.

50 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

What?  I don't think so... you're certain you're not just looking at the wingtips?  They sort of flare upwards.  The wing looks fine to me after comparing with other TBM 850s.

 

34 minutes ago, BennetHill said:

If you are comparing to the asobo TBM, I suspect it's black square who is correct, because I'm noticed while (attempting) to do my own repaints that the asobo model has a big bump in the wing, presumably when they found the landing gear wound not fit. I can't unsee that one in sim now, like the backwards Baron propeller blade.

real life

Black Square

Black Square

Real Life

Asobo

 

No the wings in the BS TMB 850 are definitively too thick, compared to real life TBM, but if you also want to copare it with the Asobo, I would say in that case that Asobo model is better when it comes to the shape of the wing, at least it's not too thick

I quickly googled for TBM pictures, the angle is not exactly the same, I know but you can compare

Edited December 8, 20232 yr by cyril972

7 hours ago, Pompey said:

Nice comparison, ryanbatc.   I have the M500 and love it.  I may just try the 850 based on your comments.

Unless you've flown a plane with PT6 and are hyper about realistic engine operation, you'll be glad you bought it.  The engine sim is actually pretty good but not quite on par with m500 imo.  It's vastly better than stock 930.

4 hours ago, cyril972 said:

 

real life

Black Square

Black Square

Real Life

Asobo

 

No the wings in the BS TMB 850 are definitively too thick, compared to real life TBM, but if you also want to copare it with the Asobo, I would say in that case that Asobo model is better when it comes to the shape of the wing, at least it's not too thick

I quickly googled for TBM pictures, the angle is not exactly the same, I know but you can compare

Maybe the boots are too thick on the leading edges?  Idk they look pretty similar.  You should mention it at just flight forums