December 25, 20232 yr 48 minutes ago, jwhak said: One can only hope 83knts for a jet is wild. I scene something associated with the pc-24 and 83knts if that is stall speed dirty at max tow that is lets just say wwwhhhaaaaat. That and going into unprepared straps in a jet as well.. .. G Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth" Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron
January 19, 20242 yr Author I got fed up waiting for a study level business jet with opening doors and all, I'm temporarily using something else. My current go-to biz jet. It's been announced for MSFS and I'm hoping it'll show up soon... Win 11 Pro, MSFS Deluxe, Quest 2.
January 19, 20242 yr 7 minutes ago, spinoza said: I got fed up waiting for a study level business jet with opening doors and all, I'm temporarily using something else. My current go-to biz jet. It's been announced for MSFS and I'm hoping it'll show up soon... What's up with the Lear 35 ? Early access, but better than the XP LJ25 was / is .. .. G Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth" Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron
January 19, 20242 yr Author 8 minutes ago, Gazzareth said: What's up with the Lear 35 ? Early access, but better than the XP LJ25 was / is .. .. G Off the top of my head: the Lear 35 is early access, it does not have 300+ manual, it has no panel option (the LJ25 has 4 panel options (classic, retro, gtn, dual gtn), no 8-track player... 🙂 (Fwiw, I do have FSW's Lear 35 and the Falcon 50. Both are VERY nice too but they do not have as much detail compared to the LJ25.) The very detailed manual in the LJ25 include stuff like: --- --- -- Win 11 Pro, MSFS Deluxe, Quest 2.
January 19, 20242 yr 28 minutes ago, spinoza said: Off the top of my head: the Lear 35 is early access, it does not have 300+ manual, it has no panel option (the LJ25 has 4 panel options (classic, retro, gtn, dual gtn), no 8-track player... 🙂 (Fwiw, I do have FSW's Lear 35 and the Falcon 50. Both are VERY nice too but they do not have as much detail compared to the LJ25.) To be honest I flew the XP a lot, until I got the FSW version not touched it since (that's in p3d), systems wise I much prefer FSW. There's currently 3 panel options in the FSW (MSFS Version) although two are versions of a single GTN, hoping that they add a dual GTN option in the future)... G Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth" Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron
January 20, 20242 yr Business jets are, unfortunately, somewhat of an abandoned orphan in MSFS. The only long range biz jet is the DEFAULT Longitude. It's basically just a cockpit, with no cabin, doors, animations inside, etc. The Hondajet and the Cirrus Vision Jet are nice, but are basically tiny mosquitoes with 0 "ramp presence". The recently released Phenom 100 by Cockspur is mediocre. Hoping for a decent Phenom 300 by FSReborn.
January 20, 20242 yr 2 hours ago, Ricardo41 said: Business jets are, unfortunately, somewhat of an abandoned orphan in MSFS. The only long range biz jet is the DEFAULT Longitude. It's basically just a cockpit, with no cabin, doors, animations inside, etc. The Hondajet and the Cirrus Vision Jet are nice, but are basically tiny mosquitoes with 0 "ramp presence". Not really, you've missed off the CJ4, BBJ and LJ35. There were far fewer "quality" business jets in p3d, unless you count Carenado (which look nicer than Cockspur, but have worse avionics - thanks to WT for that). FlightFX are also (apparently) working on a Citation X and/or other projects depending on what rumours you believe. I agree with you on the "shell" of the C700, which also applies to the BBJ. BUT even the best of the MSFS aircraft, for interaction - IMHO the Lear and SF50, fall far short of the likes of the Challenger, which you can walk up to, open the door and do a walk around, interacting with the exterior of the aircraft. That to me is the gold standard, would absolutely love to see that level of interaction in MSFS. All that said, my most flown business jet in MSFS, also my most flown aircraft in MSFS - the C700..... beating the CJ4 by nearly 2-1... G Edited January 20, 20242 yr by Gazzareth English Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth" Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron
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