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Hello ….I need your suggestions I switched graphics cards from 1070 GTX 8Gb to 2070 super mini 8gb, for this I uninstalled all the old drivers and installed the new one to support the new card, I have exactly the same settings on P3D v5 and Nvidia and I can tell that I have lower frames with this newer card than my old one on the heavy airports, and I’ve had 2 crash to desktop (this never happened with the old 1070), is the 2070 really bad? Someone gave me their not used 2070 so that was the reason for changing the graphics card. Any suggestions ? 

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Check your settings. Also, it's very possible you're CPU limited.


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Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 5 5600X with PBO enabled (but default settings, CO -15 mV, and SMT ON), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX3060 Ti 8GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120 Hz, Windows 10 Pro. Runing FSX-SE, MSFS and P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 default airports).

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there... sometimes on just battery! FSX-SE also installed, just in case. 

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10 hours ago, Chris555 said:

Hello ….I need your suggestions I switched graphics cards from 1070 GTX 8Gb to 2070 super mini 8gb, for this I uninstalled all the old drivers and installed the new one to support the new card, I have exactly the same settings on P3D v5 and Nvidia and I can tell that I have lower frames with this newer card than my old one on the heavy airports, and I’ve had 2 crash to desktop (this never happened with the old 1070), is the 2070 really bad? Someone gave me their not used 2070 so that was the reason for changing the graphics card. Any suggestions ? 

Thank you .

I'd try a clean install with NVCleanstall available here https://www.techpowerup.com/download/

Next thing delete your shader cache before you start the sim. Delete all file in this folder.

Local Disk (C:) ► Users ► You ► AppData ► Local ► Lockheed Martin ► Prepar3D v5 ► Shaders

Also check Prepar3D.cfg for an entry like this

[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce 2070.0.0] 

There should be your 2070 listed not the 1070. If it's wrong, just delete this entry.

Next start of the sim, it should work.

If it still crashes, it may be a problem of this hardware. Check if it's clogged with dust. Maybe it gets hot.


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3 hours ago, Luis Hernandez said:

Check your settings. Also, it's very possible you're CPU limited.

If he was CPU limited, why would performance go down?


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13 minutes ago, Luke said:

If he was CPU limited, why would performance go down?

My bad, I understood no improvement at all; not a downgrade.


Best regards,
Luis Hernández 20px-Flag_of_Colombia.svg.png20px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png

Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 5 5600X with PBO enabled (but default settings, CO -15 mV, and SMT ON), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX3060 Ti 8GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120 Hz, Windows 10 Pro. Runing FSX-SE, MSFS and P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 default airports).

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there... sometimes on just battery! FSX-SE also installed, just in case. 

VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/travel.

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Hello guys my processor is i7 10700k I deleted old drivers and with the new card installed new drivers, also deleted the shaders, as I mentioned before all settings on Nvidia and Pd3 v5 are the same as before, I’m just looking to find why the frames go down so much compared to the old 1070……… guys a are you running your P3D on game mode ? What is your recommendation ?  

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Hey @Chris555,  If you monitor the GPU use, is it reaching 100% (or very close it it) ?

Once a GPU maxs out frame rates drop and stutters begin.

The 1070 series was actually a pretty good card, I had a 1070Ti clocked to 2 Ghz and performance was pretty good.

If you limit the P3D frame rate in the Nvidia control panel to 30 fps, do things perform better ?

Cheers


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This is why I bought a GTX Titan about 6 years ago for $1400.00. Never a word not allowed problem with anything  and don't  expect any new GPU will catch up to it  in at least 4 years more.

Jim

 

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11 minutes ago, jfmitch said:

don't  expect any new GPU will catch up to it  in at least 4 years more.

That's funny.

Cheers


Luke Kolin

I make simFDR, the most advanced flight data recorder for FSX, Prepar3D and X-Plane.

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