Hello, so I like to a lot of flights out of Edwards AFB in Flight sim. I want to make my flying more elastic, so I decided to take a look at the real life procedures for the airport but was confused when looking at the noise abatement procedure. According to AirNav the procedure is as follows

 

NOISE ABTMT PROC EFF 0400-1300Z++. 412 OG APVL RQRD FOR TGL. RWY 23L/R ALL ACFT MNTN RWY HDG TIL ABM JIPOP (EDW226013), THEN CLIMB ON HDG BTN 226 DEG CCW TO 360 DEG. NO EBND TURNS TIL PASSING EDW 245 RDL.

From what I understand, it says to maintain runway heading until abeam JIPOP then climb on a heading between 226 and 360 degrees. The problem is, I am not sure what JIPOP is, or where it's located. I looked at the charts for the area and don't see any VOR's or waypoints with that name, so not sure what it is referring to. Also, where it says climb on heading between 226 and 360 I am not sure what CCW means.

So is anyone familiar with this procedure, and could you help me understand it? I know it might be a long shot since I'm not sure how many people are familiar with the specific procedures of this airport, since it's an AFB and all but figured I would ask since I am curious.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Edited May 27, 20242 yr by jt233

JIPOP is on the EDW VORTAC 226 radial at 13 miles, (EDW226013), which puts it about 4 miles off the extended centreline southwest of 23L. If you go to Skyvector.com, put a flightplan route from KEDW to anywhere, then type PIPOP in the route box, you'll see exactly where it is. CCW means counter clockwise, so I'm guessing only left turns allowed from 226 deg all the way to North?

Eugene

8 hours ago, Overload said:

JIPOP is on the EDW VORTAC 226 radial at 13 miles, (EDW226013), which puts it about 4 miles off the extended centreline southwest of 23L. If you go to Skyvector.com, put a flightplan route from KEDW to anywhere, then type PIPOP in the route box, you'll see exactly where it is. CCW means counter clockwise, so I'm guessing only left turns allowed from 226 deg all the way to North?

Eugene

Thank you for the help, however I still have a couple of questions. What is JIPOP considered? I did what you suggested and entered it into Skyvector, and it showed on the flight plan, but there's no actual marker for it on the chart itself. I see other waypoints nearby, like MUDTY, but not this one, As for CCW I am not sure how that works in this particular instance. For example, if you wanted to turn to a heading of 330 you would have to make a right turn to do it. You could do it by turning CCW and turning completely around, but that would mean turning east, which it says not to do until past EDW 245 RDL.

Thanks

12 minutes ago, jt233 said:

What is JIPOP considered?

A waypoint.

 

Edited May 27, 20242 yr by polosim

1 hour ago, polosim said:

A waypoint.

Thanks, but is there something I'm doing wrong? It doesn't seem to show on Skyvector no matter which chart I click on. I took some screenshots which I tried to post directly on here, but It won't let me for some reason.

 

https://imgur.com/a/wqZKQjd

 

 

Edited May 27, 20242 yr by jt233

19 minutes ago, jt233 said:

Skyvector no matter which chart I click on.

You will find JIPOP as part of the VOR DME Y RWY 05R approach.

18 hours ago, polosim said:

You will find JIPOP as part of the VOR DME Y RWY 05R approach.

Thank you. I didn't even think to check the approach charts for that runway to find it.

On 5/27/2024 at 7:24 AM, jt233 said:

I want to make my flying more elastic

Have you tried flying one of these?

 

Sorry, couldn't resist the urge to take advantage of a predictive text or typo like that!😉

17 hours ago, 109Sqn said:

Have you tried flying one of these?

 

Sorry, couldn't resist the urge to take advantage of a predictive text or typo like that!😉

Oops LOL. I think I'll leave the typo so this joke works.