C414AW CHANCELLOR - Cant run both engines

[Jens Peter]

Hello Noble Airmen

I have encountered heavy probs when starting up the C414. I have no problems with other aircrafts,PMDG 737,PC12 etc.

Following the checklist from cold and dark when starting engine 2 (left or right) engine 1 stop. The default autostart (ctr+E) dosent help, same result.

Disconnecting the Honneycomb Yoke trying to start engines with mouse clicks give same result.

I have gone through all joystick and keyboard commands so i dont have buttens assighned twice to the same command.

Still no luck, dammed with problems with such a nice plane ;O(

Any input are much appreciated.

[z06z33]

2 hours ago, Jens Peter said:

Hello Noble Airmen

I have encountered heavy probs when starting up the C414. I have no problems with other aircrafts,PMDG 737,PC12 etc.

Following the checklist from cold and dark when starting engine 2 (left or right) engine 1 stop. The default autostart (ctr+E) dosent help, same result.

Disconnecting the Honneycomb Yoke trying to start engines with mouse clicks give same result.

I have gone through all joystick and keyboard commands so i dont have buttens assighned twice to the same command.

Still no luck, dammed with problems with such a nice plane ;O(

Any input are much appreciated.

Hmm Im not able to replicate what version of the plane are you using you may need to update it

[ark]

3 hours ago, Jens Peter said:

Any input are much appreciated.

Make sure that:

- You are using the latest version of the plane.

- You are using the latest version of whatever GPS you are using.

- You are using a default Flysimware livery and not an addon livery.

- Fuel tank selectors are set correctly.

- The sim has not turned on any Assistance options you don't want to use (Automixture, etc).

As a test you could also try loading directly onto a runway from the World Map page in which case both engines should be running.

Al

Edited July 23 by ark

[JustanotherPilot]

Seems like the fuel tank selection levers not turned on. Ctlr + E won't start the engines if fuel not switched on.

[Jens Peter]

Hello Ark, Thanks for Reply ;O)

I Re-installed the plane

Started at RWY with default Livery engine started config./honeycomb Alpha Yoke/ left engine refused to run

It is possible to start from cold&dark, but when switcing the starter dial/key from R-L-Both to start position both start, but L engine stop again

The Suctiongauge showed L/red/ No Rpm etc.

Disconnected loaded same flight without the A-Yoke and with engines running config, Same Result !

Loaded Cold&Dark, started again, L dident start/R engine was running fine :O(

No idea of what can be wrong, does anyone have the same problem ?

 

And Thanks Steve, yes i followed the checklist so tanks was on L+R ;O)

 

[ark]

1 hour ago, Jens Peter said:

Re-installed the plane

As I recall the installer first uninstalls the existing install, and then does the (re)install. However, if one of the files in the existing install is corrupt in some way, it may not get removed during the uninstall process. So what you can try is to manually delete any C414 files from the Community folder (I'm assuming you didn't buy the C414 from the Market Place and the C414 is in the Community folder), and then run the installer to reinstall the plane.

If that doesn't work, then suggest you rename the Community folder to back it up (e.g., Community_BkUp), then create a new Community folder and only paste the C414 folder (or install the C414) into the new Community folder, and then start the sim and load a GNS530 version of the C414 using a default FSW livery. This will check for any Community folder conflict.

Al

[Jens Peter]

Great idea, so i did the re-name solution (did buy it at MP) and tested it. when loading at the rwy engines running all went fine untill i fired up, then the left engine immidetly died (all buttons very correct)

When starting at a gate, the left engine stopped as before when turning the startkey (magneto) from startposition to Both. 

When re-naming the community folder no change :O(

Further i did run some test og the default Beech Baron and King Air 350 and they worked fine, i was able to start up at the gate.

Checked also the Caranados Beech D18S and no probs.

Finally i have removed all magneto key bindings for my keyboard and other devices but no result :O(

I think it must be a problem with the C414, since it didnt even help to unplug the Honneycomb Alpha throttle and only using the mouse,

the L-engine was still dead.

Once Again, Many thanks for your kind Help ;O)

[ark]

2 hours ago, Jens Peter said:

I think it must be a problem with the C414, since it didnt even help to unplug the Honneycomb Alpha throttle and only using the mouse,

I doubt it is a general problem with the C414, but rather something about the C414 install on your system. There are literally 1000s of C414 users and I have not seen any other reports similar to yours, at least not yet, either here on AVSIM or on the FSW Discord server, which is very active.. 

AFTER the left engine quits, maybe check that the left tank fuel selector is still pointing to the green area, the crossfeed value is closed and there is fuel in the left tank. Also check that under the sim Control Options, you have the correct throttle profile for the C414 selected and it works as expected when you move both throttles.

After you load directly onto the runway and both engines are running, does the left engine continue to run if you do nothing? If so, next move the left throttle a bit and see if that kills the engine. If not, then maybe try the individual mag switches. The idea is to try and isolate what is causing the left engine to quit.

Finally, suggest you post on the FSW Discord since there are lots of helpful C414 users there and someone may have the solution to your problem.
https://discord.gg/sm3a2Ktu   see the pc-support-chat channel.

Al

Edited July 24 by ark

[Jens Peter]

Hello Ark

Thanks for your GREAT help, the solution to the problem was so simple :O=

In all my planes the L+R tanks are filled equally normally around 50%, BUT not in this Bird. For an unknown reason the left tank was empty !,  filling it up, everything is possible, I CAN FLY  ;O)

Would never had pinned the problem without your help, Thanks !

 

 

 

 

[ark]

21 minutes ago, Jens Peter said:

For an unknown reason the left tank was empty !,  filling it up, everything is possible, I CAN FLY  ;O)

That's good news!

Note the C414 has "state saving", so some settings, e.g., switch positions, etc,  are saved from flight to flight, including the fuel in the tanks. So if you ended a flight with the left tank empty, that might of been a factor in the left tank being empty each time you loaded the plane, don't know for sure.

Al

[Jens Peter]

Yes that's the reason, just in the real plane, Great ;O)