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I have a pet peeve, for aircraft developers who do not include V-speeds and checklist with their aircraft. I believe the developer takes the time to research the aircraft he/she was developing than there should be a checklist and v-speeds. How do you want us to fly the aircraft without the checklist or v-speeds. I really get upset at paywear without checklists and v-speeds. What do you guys think?Dave

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Doesn't bother me in the slightest if a plane doesn't come with them, in fact one of the things I enjoy most about buying a new aircraft is feeling a bit like a test pilot on the first flight. How will it handle? What little demons does the plane have? Learning an aircraft's handling characteristics on my own is a big part of the fun for me. But then I've never been one for rules and procedures.Even if there are checklists included I wouldn't read them until after the first flight. I consider them a 'nice to have' really. Missing VC clickspots, gauges that don't work as advertised, lack of consideration for mulitplayer issues and shared cockpit support, yeah those irk me a bit when I've shelled out coin for a new ride... but checklists, nope. :)And if I do decide I want those I can usually find them on the web in short order. Then it becomes a fun test of: did they get it right? :)Cheers,-mike

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V-speeds?? Who uses V-speeds? :-hah Nah, I let the FMC figure it out.DaveESSB

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>V-speeds?? Who uses V-speeds? :-hah >>Nah, I let the FMC figure it out.>>Dave>ESSB>Some aircraft don't have FMCs......

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>I have a pet peeve, for aircraft developers who do not>include V-speeds and checklist with their aircraft. I believe>the developer takes the time to research the aircraft he/she>was developing than there should be a checklist and v-speeds. >How do you want us to fly the aircraft without the checklist>or v-speeds. I really get upset at paywear without checklists>and v-speeds. What do you guys think?>>DaveI think you assume such information is public... which many, many times it is not and thus the developer really can't release the information.

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Totally agree to that.It is more annoying if you don't get this information and get answers like "you don't need that - FSX doesn't simulate this well anyway" in support forums.Alex

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Vspeeds aren't secrect...their numbers that don't matter. However it would be useless for someone to give Vspeeds as they generally vary with the wieght of the airplane.

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>Vspeeds aren't secrect...their numbers that don't matter.>However it would be useless for someone to give Vspeeds as>they generally vary with the wieght of the airplane.I didn't say they were secret... but if the information the developer has is in a copyrighted text... they can't turn around and just republish it themselves.As for the rest of what you said... very true.

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I totally agree. Of course it depends on how good you already are. I don't have time to fly more than two or three times a week, so I don't like to search for hours for checklists on the internet. It wouldn't cost that much time to put the information on paper. Besides I like the excellent documentation about an airplane that a companie like PMDG delivers with their aircraft. I also did like the Beaver of Aerosoft and will buy their Twin Otter, but hesitate about aircraft from other manufacturers.Jan

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>>Vspeeds aren't secrect...their numbers that don't matter.>>However it would be useless for someone to give Vspeeds as>>they generally vary with the wieght of the airplane.>>I didn't say they were secret... but if the information the>developer has is in a copyrighted text... they can't turn>around and just republish it themselves.>>As for the rest of what you said... very true.Retyping a few basic numbers and/or a checklist wouldn't take long. Sure you can't just scan a direct document but you could retype.

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