23 hours ago, Ratsirt said:

Thanks for that info. It's taken me a while to get back here also. Do you have an opinion on which needs more graphics power, widescreen IPS or multi flat screens? I'm looking at a system with a 5080 today. Any thoughts on Digital Storm desktops?

Not exactly sure what you're asking but if you mean running the game on multiple screens at once vs a standard ultrawide 3440x1440 resolution and assuming the multi screens are 1440p the ultrawide will be easier.  Just multiply the horizontal & vertical resolution to find out how many pixels you have to drive.  The only way 2 screens would be easier is if they were 1080p and I don't think 1080 is worth it anymore especially with a 5080 as far as games that don't support multiple monitors.  You'd be severely CPU limited in other games and that may introduce performance issues of its own.  For reference the 4090 was marketed as the first card for 8K gaming, the 5080 is somewhere around a 4090 in performance, probably a bit less but not much.  Only reason I bought a 4090 instead of a 4080 was because I had/have plans for VR use.

34" ultrawide std res 3440x1440 = 4.9mil

27" standard widescreen 2560x1440x2 = 7.3mil

19-27" standard FHD widescreen1920x1080x2 = 4.1mil

4K monitor = 8.3mil

Edited February 11, 20251 yr by flyinion

On 2/10/2025 at 1:16 PM, Ratsirt said:

Thanks. I'm now looking at a 5080 now. I'm seeing mixed reviews but am also hearing it has great over-clocking potential.

Like the 4080, the price/performance ratio is pretty terrible. NV hasn't made a good 80-series card since the 3080.

Cheers

On 2/12/2025 at 7:59 AM, Luke said:

Like the 4080, the price/performance ratio is pretty terrible. NV hasn't made a good 80-series card since the 3080.

Cheers

Wow...that's not encouraging. It's turning out to be a lot more difficult to put a system together for MSFS2024 than I thought. It just shouldn't be this difficult.

On 2/11/2025 at 11:25 AM, flyinion said:

Not exactly sure what you're asking but if you mean running the game on multiple screens at once vs a standard ultrawide 3440x1440 resolution and assuming the multi screens are 1440p the ultrawide will be easier.  Just multiply the horizontal & vertical resolution to find out how many pixels you have to drive.  The only way 2 screens would be easier is if they were 1080p and I don't think 1080 is worth it anymore especially with a 5080 as far as games that don't support multiple monitors.  You'd be severely CPU limited in other games and that may introduce performance issues of its own.  For reference the 4090 was marketed as the first card for 8K gaming, the 5080 is somewhere around a 4090 in performance, probably a bit less but not much.  Only reason I bought a 4090 instead of a 4080 was because I had/have plans for VR use.

34" ultrawide std res 3440x1440 = 4.9mil

27" standard widescreen 2560x1440x2 = 7.3mil

19-27" standard FHD widescreen1920x1080x2 = 4.1mil

4K monitor = 8.3mil

Thanks for that info. I'm not interested any any other gaming. Only flt simming with MSFS 2024 and X-Plane. The only reason I can see for running two screens is to have a screen for the cockpit views and then one for "peripherals"...ATC, G1000, Radios, etc. I originally wanted a 4080 but the availability and stupid pricing was making it difficult.

Edited February 24, 20251 yr by Ratsirt
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21 hours ago, Ratsirt said:

Wow...that's not encouraging. It's turning out to be a lot more difficult to put a system together for MSFS2024 than I thought. It just shouldn't be this difficult.

Sorry, what is difficult?

 

On 2/25/2025 at 9:51 AM, Luke said:

Sorry, what is difficult?

Sorry for this more than tardy response. The putting together a box that I will be happy with for some appreciable time has been difficult. After a while all the information turned my brain to mush. Tired of endless researching and waiting I pulled the trigger on this:

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/gaming-computers/cs-9050121-na/vengeance-a7500-gaming-pc-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-geforce-rtx-5080-32gb-ddr5-2tb-ssd-win11-home-cs-9050121-na

If there's anyone out there who'd like to tell me how badly I screwed up....please restrain your temptation.  😉

On 3/3/2025 at 3:56 PM, G-RFRY said:

 

Thanks. You're five days too late. But maybe all is OK.. I didn't get an ASRock MB.

On 2/11/2025 at 11:25 AM, flyinion said:

Not exactly sure what you're asking but if you mean running the game on multiple screens at once vs a standard ultrawide 3440x1440 resolution and assuming the multi screens are 1440p the ultrawide will be easier.  Just multiply the horizontal & vertical resolution to find out how many pixels you have to drive.  The only way 2 screens would be easier is if they were 1080p and I don't think 1080 is worth it anymore especially with a 5080 as far as games that don't support multiple monitors.  You'd be severely CPU limited in other games and that may introduce performance issues of its own.  For reference the 4090 was marketed as the first card for 8K gaming, the 5080 is somewhere around a 4090 in performance, probably a bit less but not much.  Only reason I bought a 4090 instead of a 4080 was because I had/have plans for VR use.

34" ultrawide std res 3440x1440 = 4.9mil

27" standard widescreen 2560x1440x2 = 7.3mil

19-27" standard FHD widescreen1920x1080x2 = 4.1mil

4K monitor = 8.3mil

Actively looking for monitors now and not seeing much available with the 1800R curve. Also, is HDMI or Display Cable better for flight simming?

 

4 hours ago, Ratsirt said:

Actively looking for monitors now and not seeing much available with the 1800R curve. Also, is HDMI or Display Cable better for flight simming?

 

Displayport for sure.  It's the PC version of HDMI designed specifically for PC use.  It can handle much higher refresh rates etc than HDMI.  IMO opinion the only reason to use HDMI is if you're connecting to a TV or have enough monitors that you used all your DP connectors on the GPU.

 

edit:  On Asrock, I wouldn't worry too much.  I watched a few videos including the GN ones about the issue and it turns out multiple brands have had issues and it looks to be a BIOS issue that in most cases is resolved by flashing back to the older BIOS.  JayzTwoCents has been using the Asrock Taichi board and had no problems with his so far.  Any actual damaged/dead CPU's are more likely user installation errors or very edge cases with BIOS bugs and overclocking attempts.  Some reports have mentioned using very high speed 7000+ speed RAM when the issue happened.  I'm currently about to upgrade my system with a 9950X3D and either the MSI Carbon or the Asrock Taichi and my decision right now believe it or not is down to USB port config, board aesthetics (black gold vs black white/gray), and amount of NVME drives I can install before the main PCIE slot gets its bandwidth cut in half.

Edited April 5, 20251 yr by flyinion

Great information! Thanks for the thoroughness as it helps a lot.

OK. I'm all set up but am using my old Pro Pedals while I await the return of the Winwing rudder pedals. I have X-Plane 12 up and running and am looking to get MSFS 2024 and have come to the Steam or MS Store decision. I've read some threads, most of which were older when 2024 was new and crowded. So, which is the way to go and what are the pros and cons of each?

 

Thanks.