So, since I built a new rig (AMD 9900X3D, blah, blah, blah), I decided to give MSFS 2024 another go now that SU2 has been released. Since I only fly airliners, I have no interest in migrating wildebeasts or photorealistic rocks. If MSFS 2024 is going to earn its stripes for me its going to have to find a way to support Fenix A321, at KLGA, with Samscene NYC, and do it at a flyable framerate - so let's start there. 

I installed MSFS 2024 from scratch on its own .M2 Samsung drive and loaded up the abovementioned addons just as a curiosity. Mind you, last time I loaded MSFS 24 pre SU2, it was a stuttering mess on my i7 14700k, and I've made my disappointment with Asobo clear. So - I loaded up FS24, updated her, tweaked a few settings and went for a freeflight at Fenix at MKStudios KLGA with Samscene NYC v2, Beyond ATC with AIG traffic on level 8, and GSX, at TAA with Framegen, (not interested in blurry DLSS) at 3840x1600. As I said, you're in or you're out. And...

WHOA. First off, startup into nonstreamed airports is super fast - less than 20 seconds where before I never knew if it would load up or not - sometimes 20 minutes and nothing. And the performance. It was SO good that I didn't believe my own eyes. Performance was MUCH better than MSFS 2020 under the same circumstances (although not apples to apples because I have a few settings knocked down to High from Ultra). To be in a super heavy scenery area and this smooth and this high frame rate - I figured it can't be right and must be a fluke and will soon crash so actually left the sim running, went out to mow my lawn for an hour and came back fully expecting the sim to be gone into the usual CTD. But nope. Still screaming. 

True test is still running KLGA - to XCODR KDEN with addon city scenery. IF it makes it with no surprises it looks like FS24 may just have earned its right to be my sim of choice. I hold judgement until after I landm  but have to give Asobo credit where credit is due. SU2 delivers - at least from a performance standpoint. 3 hours to go - no pressure!

Mike T.

Edited May 26, 20251 yr by Mike T

1 hour ago, Mike T said:

So, since I built a new rig (AMD 9900X3D, blah, blah, blah), I decided to give MSFS 2024 another go now that SU2 has been released. Since I only fly airliners, I have no interest in migrating wildebeasts or photorealistic rocks. If MSFS 2024 is going to earn its stripes for me its going to have to find a way to support Fenix A321, at KLGA, with Samscene NYC, and do it at a flyable framerate - so let's start there. 

I installed MSFS 2024 from scratch on its own .M2 Samsung drive and loaded up the abovementioned addons just as a curiosity. Mind you, last time I loaded MSFS 24 pre SU2, it was a stuttering mess on my i7 14700k, and I've made my disappointment with Asobo clear. So - I loaded up FS24, updated her, tweaked a few settings and went for a freeflight at Fenix at MKStudios KLGA with Samscene NYC v2, Beyond ATC with AIG traffic on level 8, and GSX, at TAA with Framegen, (not interested in blurry DLSS) at 3840x1600. As I said, you're in or you're out. And...

WHOA. First off, startup into nonstreamed airports is super fast - less than 20 seconds where before I never knew if it would load up or not - sometimes 20 minutes and nothing. And the performance. It was SO good that I didn't believe my own eyes. Performance was MUCH better than MSFS 2020 under the same circumstances (although not apples to apples because I have a few settings knocked down to High from Ultra). To be in a super heavy scenery area and this smooth and this high frame rate - I figured it can't be right and must be a fluke and will soon crash so actually left the sim running, went out to mow my lawn for an hour and came back fully expecting the sim to be gone into the usual CTD. But nope. Still screaming. 

True test is still running KLGA - to XCODR KDEN with addon city scenery. IF it makes it with no surprises it looks like FS24 may just have earned its right to be my sim of choice. I hold judgement until after I landm  but have to give Asobo credit where credit is due. SU2 delivers - at least from a performance standpoint. 3 hours to go - no pressure!

Mike T.

Great post mate.

Indeed, since SU2 dropped, performance is great.  The Ryzen CPU's love MSFS2024.

I also mainly fly complex airliners in and out of detailed third-party airports and the sim performs amazingly well with high TLODS and Ultra/High Settings.

Got to also add that low and slow GA flying is great too.  If you ever get a chance, get down low and enjoy.

Happy flying mate.

Jase

3 hours ago, Mike T said:

So, since I built a new rig (AMD 9900X3D, blah, blah, blah), I decided to give MSFS 2024 another go now that SU2 has been released. Since I only fly airliners, I have no interest in migrating wildebeasts or photorealistic rocks. If MSFS 2024 is going to earn its stripes for me its going to have to find a way to support Fenix A321, at KLGA, with Samscene NYC, and do it at a flyable framerate - so let's start there. 

I installed MSFS 2024 from scratch on its own .M2 Samsung drive and loaded up the abovementioned addons just as a curiosity. Mind you, last time I loaded MSFS 24 pre SU2, it was a stuttering mess on my i7 14700k, and I've made my disappointment with Asobo clear. So - I loaded up FS24, updated her, tweaked a few settings and went for a freeflight at Fenix at MKStudios KLGA with Samscene NYC v2, Beyond ATC with AIG traffic on level 8, and GSX, at TAA with Framegen, (not interested in blurry DLSS) at 3840x1600. As I said, you're in or you're out. And...

WHOA. First off, startup into nonstreamed airports is super fast - less than 20 seconds where before I never knew if it would load up or not - sometimes 20 minutes and nothing. And the performance. It was SO good that I didn't believe my own eyes. Performance was MUCH better than MSFS 2020 under the same circumstances (although not apples to apples because I have a few settings knocked down to High from Ultra). To be in a super heavy scenery area and this smooth and this high frame rate - I figured it can't be right and must be a fluke and will soon crash so actually left the sim running, went out to mow my lawn for an hour and came back fully expecting the sim to be gone into the usual CTD. But nope. Still screaming. 

True test is still running KLGA - to XCODR KDEN with addon city scenery. IF it makes it with no surprises it looks like FS24 may just have earned its right to be my sim of choice. I hold judgement until after I landm  but have to give Asobo credit where credit is due. SU2 delivers - at least from a performance standpoint. 3 hours to go - no pressure!

Mike T.

I hope things work out for you, but you're kinda late to the party, don't you think?? Try low and slow around Samscence V2 NYC, you'll be amazed.

Edited May 26, 20251 yr by Bigmack

Well - to put this one to bed after an hour at the gate at KLGA and 4 hours and 25 minutes of flying - I landed at KDEN in real weather and nasty winds down to minimums with stunning performance. No issues, no memory leaks, just super high frame rates smooth as silk to KDEN 16R, again, with BATC, AIG traffic, and set to level 8.  That said, there were some microstutters along the way but I think it's my rig since I'm not finished tuning it yet. XCoder KDEN native '24 performed terribly for some reason so I swapped out for Flightbeam Kden which screams in MSFS 2024 (but with default jetways?).

I could complain about cloud matrixing, and meh night lighting, and some other niggles but I won't. That's not the purpose of SU2, so I won't go down that hole. Plenty of time for that in other threads, instead I'm gonna stay positive here and, again, give Asobo some credit. Good job!

So yeah, I will be making all future investments in FS2024, and prepare to move away from 20. It is an EXCELLENT sim with a lot of life left. But after such a horrible start to '24, I'm happy to put that behind me and look to the future. There's work to do for sure, but, it seems that, at this rate, Asobo will get '24's act together a lot faster than the 4 years it took to get '20 to where it is today.

Now I just need PMDG to figure this all out and get my 737s in '24! 😀

Mike T.

46 minutes ago, Bigmack said:

I hope things work out for you, but you're kinda late to the party, don't you think?? Try low and slow around Samscence V2 NYC, you'll be amazed.

Yeah so, no, I get to the party when I'm ready not at the time on the invite. And again - I said I'm not interested in low and slow. If I want to do see Manhattan then I can simply rent a 172 out of Linden or Essex County (Caldwell) and fly up and down the East and Hudson Rivers until my nose bleeds. 

Edited May 26, 20251 yr by Mike T

Sorry to reply to my own topic again, but I mentioned having annoying microstutters, which I was sure was a FS 24 issue. It turns out the fix was to set Low-Latency Mode in the Nvidia Control Panel to OFF (lots of trial and error).

Also I found that the BEST Bios setting for the AMD 9900X3D with a Gigabyte MoBo is simply to use the optimized defaults. Optimized defaults Still overclocked  the CPU to 5.5Ghz but turning on the other X3D specific bells and whistles and PBO seems to significantly slow down both FS '24 and '20 due to the drop in cores to 6 to support greater single thread speeds which drops the core count from 12 (24 virtual cores) to 6 optimized cores and sets SMT to off. (Anyone else seeing this?) And BTW core temp at overclock from 4.4 to 5.5ghz (max clock speed) is only 50-52 C (liquid cooling).

Test flight from KDEN to KATL and zero stutters and super high frame rates over the 3 hour flight in heavy clouds. 

Hope someone finds this info useful. Still playing with the tweaks...

Mike T

On 5/26/2025 at 12:04 AM, Mike T said:

Yeah so, no, I get to the party when I'm ready not at the time on the invite. And again - I said I'm not interested in low and slow. If I want to do see Manhattan then I can simply rent a 172 out of Linden or Essex County (Caldwell) and fly up and down the East and Hudson Rivers until my nose bleeds. 

Same boat here. Tubeliner flyer. Will move only when my personal needs were met. You decide for yourself late or not ! 100%

Glad its now at a level where we can seriously give it a good attempt of making it the main sim. For me a few items had to fall into place like being able to have the base files locally installed and having AI traffic using aig traffic controller + the PMDG 777's being available.

Its not fully there yet. ( I had 1 ctd this weekend at the end of a flight) but it more than made up for it with the rest of the flights i did. Everything loaded in nicely (no blurries and apart from 1 or two gpu maxed out warnings shortly after landing the flight was smooth (TAA+Framegen at (40x2)=80fps locked).