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Clerance and ground gives different RWY on TO

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Clerance gives me RWY 14 for TO then when asking for taxi GRND tells me to

taxi to 32. I did ask for taxi to RWY 14.

Some times it switches between L and R. Eg Clerance 18L then GRND 18R.

So it seems like Clerance does not give GRND what RWY for TO

Per W Sweden
Programmer since 30+ years (now retired) and a avid flightsimmer since SubLogic on Vic64. Now I enjoy XP 12.1.3r2 and Scenery fixing. Also did some real pilot training back in 1979-80.
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Clearance, Clarence?

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On 11/9/2025 at 3:18 PM, charliearon said:

Clearance, Clarence?

OK misspelling?😄 English is not my first language I'm Swedish

When ask for flight and get TO RWY and so on? 

Per W Sweden
Programmer since 30+ years (now retired) and a avid flightsimmer since SubLogic on Vic64. Now I enjoy XP 12.1.3r2 and Scenery fixing. Also did some real pilot training back in 1979-80.
Win10 Pro, i5-11600K, Water Cooling, ASUS MB 32GB, nVidia 4060Ti 16 GB, 27" ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQZ 2560x1440 monitor, 2 NVMe drives + 4 SSDs and 1 HDD for downloads/storage.
Honeycomb Yoke + throttle and MFG Crosswind rudders. I always build my PCs myself so I know what is inside them.

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Checked the log: ClearanceDelivery 

Per W Sweden
Programmer since 30+ years (now retired) and a avid flightsimmer since SubLogic on Vic64. Now I enjoy XP 12.1.3r2 and Scenery fixing. Also did some real pilot training back in 1979-80.
Win10 Pro, i5-11600K, Water Cooling, ASUS MB 32GB, nVidia 4060Ti 16 GB, 27" ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQZ 2560x1440 monitor, 2 NVMe drives + 4 SSDs and 1 HDD for downloads/storage.
Honeycomb Yoke + throttle and MFG Crosswind rudders. I always build my PCs myself so I know what is inside them.

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This appears to be an example of the Virtual World (game) not completely mimicking the Real World. Clearance Delivery does not assign a runway, although they may give a heading to fly after takeoff.

An ATC clearance is for the enroute portion of your flight. Ground/Tower will assign the takeoff runway and taxiways to get to that runway.

A change from L to R runway may be due to traffic flow with an arriving aircraft. Switching from Rwy 14 to Rwy 32 makes no sense in real aviation unless there was a frontal passage with significant change in wind direction.

Again, this may just be an anomaly of the sim.

Explanation of ATC Clearances follow:

https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/aim_html/chap4_section_4.html

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On 11/11/2025 at 3:21 PM, PhrogPhlyer said:

An ATC clearance is for the enroute portion of your flight. Ground/Tower will assign the takeoff runway and taxiways to get to that runway.

Agree makes sense.rport.

Per W Sweden
Programmer since 30+ years (now retired) and a avid flightsimmer since SubLogic on Vic64. Now I enjoy XP 12.1.3r2 and Scenery fixing. Also did some real pilot training back in 1979-80.
Win10 Pro, i5-11600K, Water Cooling, ASUS MB 32GB, nVidia 4060Ti 16 GB, 27" ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQZ 2560x1440 monitor, 2 NVMe drives + 4 SSDs and 1 HDD for downloads/storage.
Honeycomb Yoke + throttle and MFG Crosswind rudders. I always build my PCs myself so I know what is inside them.

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  • 2 weeks later...
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The "expect runway xxx" in the clearance is not an assignment, but rather an advisory.  However, there does seem to be a possibility for that to be incorrect.  I'll try and get it to match the actual assigned runway you'll get for takeoff in all cases, except where a dramatic wind shift occurs and the runway actually changes.

Dave

On 11/11/2025 at 9:58 AM, PerWel said:

OK misspelling?😄 English is not my first language I'm Swedish

When ask for flight and get TO RWY and so on? 

As no one explained 😜:

 

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