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[Resolved] Bad SODE Jetway Data - SPJC Lima Airport P3Dv5

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Just bought this airport from PKSIM. Positioning my PMDG 737 or 777 at a suitable gate using GSX menu results in "Bad Jetway Data".

Looking at the SODE log I can't see any issues. Shown below.

Anyone got any suggestions why GSX doesn't like it?
 

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[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:WindSock_SPJC #1' [SPJC_SODE_Windsock_Slow]. ID: 485
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:WindSock_SPJC #2' [SPJC_SODE_Windsock_Slow]. ID: 486
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:SPJCFLAG' [SPJC_FLAG_PERU]. ID: 444
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 26' [spjc_jetway1]. ID: 445
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 25' [spjc_jetway1]. ID: 446
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 24' [spjc_jetway1]. ID: 447
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 23' [spjc_jetway3]. ID: 448
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 22' [spjc_jetway3]. ID: 449
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 21' [spjc_jetway3]. ID: 450
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 20' [spjc_jetway3]. ID: 451
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 19' [spjc_jetway2]. ID: 462
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 18' [spjc_jetway2]. ID: 463
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 17' [spjc_jetway5]. ID: 464
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 16' [spjc_jetway5]. ID: 465
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 15' [spjc_jetway4]. ID: 466
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 14' [spjc_jetway5]. ID: 467
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 13' [spjc_jetway5]. ID: 468
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 12' [spjc_jetway4]. ID: 469
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 11' [spjc_jetway4]. ID: 470
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 10' [spjc_jetway4]. ID: 471
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 9' [spjc_jetway4]. ID: 473
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 8' [spjc_jetway4]. ID: 474
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:UnitA' [SPJC_SODE_PAPI]. ID: 475
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:UnitB' [SPJC_SODE_PAPI]. ID: 476
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:UnitC' [SPJC_SODE_PAPI]. ID: 477
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:UnitD' [SPJC_SODE_PAPI]. ID: 478
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:UnitA' [SPJC_SODE_PAPI]. ID: 479
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:UnitB' [SPJC_SODE_PAPI]. ID: 480
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:UnitC' [SPJC_SODE_PAPI]. ID: 481
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:UnitD' [SPJC_SODE_PAPI]. ID: 482
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  - SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:EDP_PKSIM_Lima' [12bPilot_SODE_Environmental_Data_Probe]. ID: 472
[12:36:15.685] INFO SODE.FSLOOP : ### FILTERING OBJECTS: R=40000m, Bubble Lat/Lon: -12.024068, -77.109008 ###
[12:36:15.708] INFO SODE.FSLOOP : ### Active SimObjects: 30; Active Wind Data Probes: 1 ###
[12:36:15.825] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:SPJCFLAG' [SPJC_FLAG_PERU]. ID: 685
[12:36:15.825] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 26' [spjc_jetway1]. ID: 686
[12:36:15.825] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 25' [spjc_jetway1]. ID: 687
[12:36:15.825] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 24' [spjc_jetway1]. ID: 688
[12:36:15.825] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 23' [spjc_jetway3]. ID: 689
[12:36:15.825] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 22' [spjc_jetway3]. ID: 690
[12:36:15.825] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 21' [spjc_jetway3]. ID: 691
[12:36:15.825] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 20' [spjc_jetway3]. ID: 692
[12:36:15.855] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 19' [spjc_jetway2]. ID: 703
[12:36:15.856] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 18' [spjc_jetway2]. ID: 704
[12:36:15.856] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 17' [spjc_jetway5]. ID: 705
[12:36:15.856] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 16' [spjc_jetway5]. ID: 706
[12:36:15.856] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 15' [spjc_jetway4]. ID: 707
[12:36:15.856] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 14' [spjc_jetway5]. ID: 708
[12:36:15.856] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 13' [spjc_jetway5]. ID: 709
[12:36:15.856] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 12' [spjc_jetway4]. ID: 710
[12:36:15.856] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 11' [spjc_jetway4]. ID: 711
[12:36:15.856] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 10' [spjc_jetway4]. ID: 712
[12:36:15.887] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:EDP_PKSIM_Lima' [12bPilot_SODE_Environmental_Data_Probe]. ID: 713
[12:36:15.918] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 9' [spjc_jetway4]. ID: 714
[12:36:15.918] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:Jetway 1 GATE 8' [spjc_jetway4]. ID: 715
[12:36:15.933] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:UnitA' [SPJC_SODE_PAPI]. ID: 716
[12:36:15.933] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:UnitB' [SPJC_SODE_PAPI]. ID: 717
[12:36:15.933] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:UnitC' [SPJC_SODE_PAPI]. ID: 718
[12:36:15.933] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:UnitD' [SPJC_SODE_PAPI]. ID: 719
[12:36:15.933] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:UnitA' [SPJC_SODE_PAPI]. ID: 720
[12:36:15.933] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:UnitB' [SPJC_SODE_PAPI]. ID: 721
[12:36:15.933] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:UnitC' [SPJC_SODE_PAPI]. ID: 722
[12:36:15.933] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:UnitD' [SPJC_SODE_PAPI]. ID: 723
[12:36:16.057] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:WindSock_SPJC #1' [SPJC_SODE_Windsock_Slow]. ID: 726
[12:36:16.057] INFO SODE.FSLOOP :  + SimObject 'SODE_SPJC:WindSock_SPJC #2' [SPJC_SODE_Windsock_Slow]. ID: 727

 

 

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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Some more info. I have their Bogota - SKBO. The jetways work fine there. Here's the SODE data for gate 17 at SKBO.

<Stand AfcadICAO="SKBO" AfcadGateName="GATE" AfcadParkingNumber="17">
            <!-- StandLocation;4.700226970016956;-74.14382323622702;36.352699279785156;23.0-->

        <SimObject Name="Jetway 1 GATE 17">
            <Placement Lat="4.7006178865" Lon="-74.1437214791" Alt="0.0#AGL" Hdg="306.9"/>
            <Model SimTitle="SKBO_SODE_Jetway3" StaticSimTitle="SKBO_SODE_Jetway3static0">
                <Jetway InitialState="0;40;60;0"/>
            </Model>
        </SimObject>
    </Stand>

Now here's the data for gate 15 at SPJC - also a Heavy gate.

<Stand AfcadICAO="SPJC" AfcadGateName="GATE" AfcadParkingNumber="15">
            <!-- StandLocation;-12.02360427;-77.10935916400001;64.3;6.0-->

        <SimObject Name="Jetway 1 GATE 15">
            <Placement Lat="-12.0232451493" Lon="-77.1090693216" Alt="0.0#AGL" Hdg="59.2"/>
            <Model SimTitle="spjc_jetway4">
                <Jetway InitialState="0;50;80;0"/>
            </Model>
        </SimObject>
    </Stand>

The obvious difference is a missing StaticSimTitle in SPJC. Is that the problem?

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

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19 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

The obvious difference is a missing StaticSimTitle in SPJC. Is that the problem?

That wasn't the problem. When I added it the jetway changed to a red X. Stumped so might contact developer. No mention in reviews of SODE problems.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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Found the issue. It requires the SODE menu - Tab S to display the jetway options.

I thought all this had been integrated into GSX.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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If anyone knows why GSX cannot control the SODE jetways at some airports like SPJC I’d love to know.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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14 minutes ago, Luke said:

What does the GSX log say?

Cheers

 

Where can I find that? The visible message generated by GSX is bad data. The jetway cannot operate at this gate. 

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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This post by Umberto is helpful. I’ll check it over the weekend.

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/592730-drzewiecki-design-ksea-with-gsx/#findComment-4443545

 

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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Solved it! I was suspicious of the AFCAD being named SPJC_ADEP4_ADE.bgl. That looked like a P3Dv4 one to me rather than one for v5.

So I loaded up ADE and recompiled it for v5. Bingo! GSX now operates the jetways.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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Thank you for reporting Ray.  I have this Bad Data issue with GSX at PKSim SKRG and sounds like you’ve figured it out for me without me having to investigate.

I appreciate it! 

Orman

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@okupton, you’re welcome. But that wasn’t the end of the problem. Radar Contact didn’t show any frequencies for SPJC. On opening the AFCAD and checking comms there were no entries! 🙄

I searched for them on the internet and added them. In all, I regret buying this airport and three days on from sending an email to the support address I’ve not had a reply.

Looks like abandonware but still being sold for what I consider a high price.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

That is strange.  I have their SPJC and do not have issues with frequencies.  Wonder if it is some conflict of sorts since the Airport ICAO Code changed several years ago.
 

Lima is not their best airport.  I sent them a message on Facebook now a few years ago concerning the terrible glass textures on the terminal building, if it was how it was supposed to look or if my settings were off somehow.  I never received a response from them.

I also wish they would add the new runway, but don’t expect we’ll get that either. 

if you recall, PK recently had pulled all P3d products from simmarket but later added them back for sale. 

 

Orman

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@okupton, when did you buy it? An improved version was released a couple of years ago and that’s the one I bought. No sign of the old ICAO either.

If the author is not supporting his product then SimMarket should make that clear.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

It would be nice if someone could create an afcad with the new runway/taxiways for this one.

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37 minutes ago, DuduGuimaraes said:

It would be nice if someone could create an afcad with the new runway/taxiways for this one.

Without the associated ground textures it would look dreadful. Aircraft taxiing over light brown mud. 🤨

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

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