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Why SimBrief AND Navigraph ... clunky interaction?

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I posted this on the Navigraph forum also ... my post is not intended to ruffle feathers, I think Navigraph and SimBrief are EXCELLENT tools and worth every penny.  Maybe my use case is just not correct?

BUT, I don't understand why we have two separate tools and VERY clunky interaction between them ... copy and paste?  

My adventure with these two tools and my approach just seems not very efficient with redundant data entry:

  1. Do my route planning in Navigraph Charts on my iPad
  2. Build a route in Navigraph Charts on my iPad
  3. On my Flight Sim PC, open Navigraph website and load the flight plan I created on my iPad
  4. On my Flight Sim PC, use Navigraph Export feature and “copy to clipboard”
  5. On my Flight Sim PC, start SimBrief
  6. Create a new flight in SimBrief
  7. Paste from the clipboard to the “Route” section in SimBrief
  8. Then once again enter the departure and destination ICAO in the upper Flight Info in SimBrief (duplicated from the Navigraph charts)
  9. After I enter the Departure and Arrival ICAO in SimBrief and return to the route section the text I pasted in from Navigraph is gone and SimBrief has auto generated a route which IS NOT the same as the route I created in Navigraph Charts apps?
  10. I have to adjust the Navigraph flight on my iPad to match SimBrief OR I adjust the SimBrief manually to match Navigraph iPad.

There must be a better way?

I use my iPad Navigraph app for flight tracking which is why I need routes to match.

Am I missing something really obvious? Why are these two apps not just ONE app?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan

i just plan a flight using simbrief and  than export it to navigraph

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Peter kelberg

Exactly like Peter said. I'm using Navigraph on an old Ipad for tracking, too. But the leading planner in my case is also simbrief. Plan in simbrief and then you can just import in Navigraph from simbrief without further steps needed. In addition there are still usecases like XP, LNM, Active Sky etc. where its easier to use simbrief for the planning and export plans via downloader to have it where needed. 

Cheers T.

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Thanks, any hint on how to import SimBrief flight into iPad Navigraph?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan

12 minutes ago, SayAgain said:

Thanks, any hint on how to import SimBrief flight into iPad Navigraph?

Sure. I assume you are using the Navigraph charts app and logged in on the Ipad. On the flights menu you should have the two options "+ new flight" and "Import flight". Hit import flight and you will get the option to import from simbrief. That will actually give you a list of flights avail from your simbrief history. 

Edited by Torsen

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Got it … have to unload current flight plan before the Import Flight option is available (that was the bit I was missing).

 

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